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Change YoY: =   My Rating: 9.0 / 10

Back during the 7th console generation I felt like there was very little reason for me to get an Xbox 360. I had a PS3 at the time, and just about every game that I was interested in was available on it, so I just thought I had no need for a 360. I didn't really care that much about Halo, Gears of War, or Fable. However, that generation was missing one thing I really wanted: a great Final Fantasy game. Except we did get one, just under a different name and on a console I didn't own. Hironobu Sakaguchi had founded a new company called Mistwalker after leaving Square, and eventually made a deal with Microsoft to develop games for their new console back when they were really trying to break into the Japanese market. This resulted in two exclusive titles, the latter of which is the topic here. Lost Odyssey was just about the only game I really felt sorry for missing during this period of time, and that remained the case until a decade later. My then-girlfriend, and current wife, bought herself an Xbox 360, and I figured I might as well try and find a copy of Lost Odyssey now, and eventually I did, for 5 euros. Turned out to be one of the best 5 euros I've ever spent.

There's a lot I loved about Lost Odyssey. The setting is quite unique, a world that is just emerging into a new world of technology following something of an industrial revolution, albeit one powered by new forms of magic rather than science, the characters are very well-written and each have their own clear personalities and goals, the story is admittedly following many familiar beats, but includes enough twists and turns to always keep the player guessing, and the music by Nobuo Uematsu is excellent. Yet, rather oddly, perhaps the best part of the whole game are these short extra stories the player can unlock over the course of the game that recount various events from the past, mainly related to the main character Kaim. While they aren't necessarily any masterpieces of literature, they are expertly crafted and emotionally resonant short stories that left a lasting impression on me, some of them genuinely hitting me quite hard as well. I still remember many of them vividly, even though it's been years since I played the game.

It's a shame Mistwalker hasn't developed a single new console game in over a decade now, having seemingly become a mobile game developer after The Last Story on the Wii. Perhaps because of that, Lost Odyssey feels almost like a swansong for the kind of RPG Sakaguchi once popularized with Final Fantasy. 

Last edited by Darashiva - on 26 November 2023

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S.Peelman said:

Extra hints for these two. The other three have already been guessed;

#44: Some releases of this game feature the anthem of rather shady real-life government.
Hint 2: There's plenty of imagery concerning this government, in particular a certain emblem. It caused the game to be banned in at least the country where this emblem causes a fair bit of shame these days.
#43: Better to follow [his] lead and do as [he] says.
Hint 2: Because otherwise you'll surely crash your confiscated enemy fighter right into the cliffside.

44 - One of the Wolfenstein games presumably. Wikipedia says the Wolfenstein games that were initially banned in Germany were: Wolfenstein (2009) and Wolfenstein 3D, so one of them.



Eric2048 said:
Mnementh said:

#50 I think I heard that the very early Arkane Studios game Dark Messiah of Might and Magic was innovative in the use of environmental kills. I actually have got the game recently and look for free time now to play it.

Yes 50 is Dark Messiah of Might Magic

This game sounds really cool!  Did you play this on the PC?  It looks like the PC version got a much higher Metacritic score than the XBox 360 version.



drbunnig said:

Some more clues.

48 - Super Street Fighter II
- This iteration of a highly influential title gives you the opportunity to travel to four previously unvisited countries.
- Whilst your journey through the game is mostly random, you’ll always end it by visiting the same three countries.
- The main reason you’re travelling to these countries is to give people a beat down.
- Some of the places you could find yourself having a fight include a dock, a beach, an air force base, and a factory.

47 - Sonic the Hedgehog (Master System)
- The first boss is comically easy if you play the handheld version of this game.
- And the handheld version is what was picked to represent this title on a recently expanded compilation of games from this series.
- There are two other games that share the same title as this, one of which was released in the same year on a more powerful system.
- The game is named after the playable character, who is the mascot for one of the biggest developers in the industry.

45
- The protagonist has to enter people’s dreams in order to progress through this adventure.
- The word ‘adventures’ was part of the title of this game in Europe. The NTSC version simply had the protagonist’s name as the title.
- An exclusive to one of Nintendo’s competitors, it took a lot of influence from the early Zelda titles of previous generations.

44
- You solve everyone’s problems but your own in less than a day. But what you do discover along the way does offer you hope in your search for an old friend.
- There’s so much going on, that the protagonist feels the need to quiz himself at the end of every chapter.

Current list - https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread/247804/the-official-thread-the-14th-annual-greatest-games-event-post-only-once/4/#3

45. Alundra

Farsala said:

Easy hint 4s for the 2 remaining games.

50. This action JRPG was first on the PsP, and adapted to modern consoles much later.
Unlike another handheld entry before it and even after it, the battle system is similar to the more famous entries.
You take on enemies as 3 different characters with an overarching story. These characters were named after the elements in latin.
The initials of this series is KH.

49. This JRPG was actually made possible by sony first party during the Ps2 era.
The game features pig latin as the main affliction to overcome.
sometimes the titular protagonist/antagonist will help you with enemies with powerful magic or hitting them with his face.
The title of this game when completely translated to English would simply be Shadow King Shadow King.

49. Okage: Shadow King



The_Liquid_Laser said:
drbunnig said:

Some more clues.

48 - Super Street Fighter II
- This iteration of a highly influential title gives you the opportunity to travel to four previously unvisited countries.
- Whilst your journey through the game is mostly random, you’ll always end it by visiting the same three countries.
- The main reason you’re travelling to these countries is to give people a beat down.
- Some of the places you could find yourself having a fight include a dock, a beach, an air force base, and a factory.

47 - Sonic the Hedgehog (Master System)
- The first boss is comically easy if you play the handheld version of this game.
- And the handheld version is what was picked to represent this title on a recently expanded compilation of games from this series.
- There are two other games that share the same title as this, one of which was released in the same year on a more powerful system.
- The game is named after the playable character, who is the mascot for one of the biggest developers in the industry.

45
- The protagonist has to enter people’s dreams in order to progress through this adventure.
- The word ‘adventures’ was part of the title of this game in Europe. The NTSC version simply had the protagonist’s name as the title.
- An exclusive to one of Nintendo’s competitors, it took a lot of influence from the early Zelda titles of previous generations.

44
- You solve everyone’s problems but your own in less than a day. But what you do discover along the way does offer you hope in your search for an old friend.
- There’s so much going on, that the protagonist feels the need to quiz himself at the end of every chapter.

Current list - https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread/247804/the-official-thread-the-14th-annual-greatest-games-event-post-only-once/4/#3

45. Alundra

Farsala said:

Easy hint 4s for the 2 remaining games.

50. This action JRPG was first on the PsP, and adapted to modern consoles much later.
Unlike another handheld entry before it and even after it, the battle system is similar to the more famous entries.
You take on enemies as 3 different characters with an overarching story. These characters were named after the elements in latin.
The initials of this series is KH.

49. This JRPG was actually made possible by sony first party during the Ps2 era.
The game features pig latin as the main affliction to overcome.
sometimes the titular protagonist/antagonist will help you with enemies with powerful magic or hitting them with his face.
The title of this game when completely translated to English would simply be Shadow King Shadow King.

49. Okage: Shadow King

Yeah. I was just about to reveal it myself too, nice timing.



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45- This JRPG kind of popularized a new sub-genre.
44- This is the 3rd entry in the main series, but there were plenty of handheld games released in between, it featured the conclusion to the first arc of the main story.
43- One of the surprise entries from 2022. While an extremely easy game with its strategical gameplay, still it had quite the interesting story and some of its design choices were used in FFXVI.
42- This Jrpg singlehandedly carried the series forward due to the popularity of the cover character.
41- This is my cheat JRPG, because it is more strategy than JRPG (thus loses spots on my top 50 JRPG list) but you can still level up your army in battle.



Farsala said:

45- This JRPG kind of popularized a new sub-genre.
44- This is the 3rd entry in the main series, but there were plenty of handheld games released in between, it featured the conclusion to the first arc of the main story.
43- One of the surprise entries from 2022. While an extremely easy game with its strategical gameplay, still it had quite the interesting story and some of its design choices were used in FFXVI.
42- This Jrpg singlehandedly carried the series forward due to the popularity of the cover character.
41- This is my cheat JRPG, because it is more strategy than JRPG (thus loses spots on my top 50 JRPG list) but you can still level up your army in battle.

45: Could be a lot of things I guess, but Final Fantasy Tactics?

44: Kingdom Hearts 3?



Farsala said:

45- This JRPG kind of popularized a new sub-genre.
44- This is the 3rd entry in the main series, but there were plenty of handheld games released in between, it featured the conclusion to the first arc of the main story.
43- One of the surprise entries from 2022. While an extremely easy game with its strategical gameplay, still it had quite the interesting story and some of its design choices were used in FFXVI.
42- This Jrpg singlehandedly carried the series forward due to the popularity of the cover character.
41- This is my cheat JRPG, because it is more strategy than JRPG (thus loses spots on my top 50 JRPG list) but you can still level up your army in battle.

45. Dark Souls
44. Kingdom Hearts 3
43. Triangle Strategy
42. Nier Automata
41.  Valkyria Chronicles



Machina said:
S.Peelman said:

Extra hints for these two. The other three have already been guessed;

#44: Some releases of this game feature the anthem of rather shady real-life government.
Hint 2: There's plenty of imagery concerning this government, in particular a certain emblem. It caused the game to be banned in at least the country where this emblem causes a fair bit of shame these days.
#43: Better to follow [his] lead and do as [he] says.
Hint 2: Because otherwise you'll surely crash your confiscated enemy fighter right into the cliffside.

44 - One of the Wolfenstein games presumably. Wikipedia says the Wolfenstein games that were initially banned in Germany were: Wolfenstein (2009) and Wolfenstein 3D, so one of them.

Wolfenstein 3D is correct!

The game features a rendition of one of the Nazi party’s ‘anthems’ in the intro of some versions of the game and it was banned for it and for the swastika and Hitler imagery throughout in Germany. Return to Castle Wolfenstein also features this song though, but I’m not sure if that game was banned as well.



Next set of hints:

#40

-Core and the Arm

#39

-Help the dead find peace

#38

-The mountain beckons

#37

-"You think there's a dog buried in this."

#36

-Make it to the spring of the third year to meet the person who started you on this journey