i was actually going to take your word for it but the most recent post in this thread besides this one im writing now is about post counts so i dont know, the way i see it the jury is still out on whether or not its meaningless. while we are on the topic though, how many posts do you have to have before you get any respect around here

haha i wouldnt go as far as to say leynos should get banned i think he's just lettin off some steam, maybe had a bad day at work or something. he seemed a little on edge in this thread too

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread/247763/sega-hardware-owners-which-platform-has-become-your-new-home-and-why/1/

but im taking it all in stride :)

I was actually referring to Ryuu xD but I was still messing around. 

Welcome to the forums!

thanks :)

1) It takes one to recognize another dweller. And I have sense enough to back up my claims.

2) You are more than welcome to add hard data from Sony and Nintendo to this conversation and maybe make your claims less opinionated. 
Additionally, with a revenue giant like ABK, Xbox will add close to $10 billion to their yearly forecast and more if they give  dormant IPs like Heroes of The Storm, Heartstone, StarCraft a proper support. 

They said it was 10%-15% did they?  Well that's funny because that's not what the court said in the Epic VS Apple court case.  In fact it was the very oppisit:

Source: https://tech.hindustantimes.com/gaming/news/heres-why-the-xbox-game-pass-is-so-important-for-microsoft-it-s-the-only-thing-that-is-making-profits-in-gaming-71620400051073.html

If you dispute my maths, then show your workings out.  Because it's you that's using the "Trust me bro" line to attempt to dispute it.

And you fell for the oldest PR trick in the book.  Let me guess, you saw "news" stories like THIS and took it at face value and didn't apply any critical thinking.  Phil says Game Pass is profitable for them, but doesn't actually mention a time frame.

So was it profitable that day?  That month?  That year?  Anything is profitable if so have a narrow enough time frame.  And has I showed in my video, how much that Microsoft has spent on getting Game Pass to where it is right now, will take them at least 12 years to make.  So in what world is that a profit?

You can sit here and say "but Microsoft had that cash on hand so it's not an expense".  That's not how business works.  they had $7.6 Billion on hand for the Nokia deal to make Windows phone a thing.  But when Windows phone didn't take off that soon went south.  Or was that not a loss either?

Yes, GamePass will not overtake Steam as the primary way PC gamers play Microsoft Studio games.  Obviously GamePass is not going away from PC, but it's not going to see enough user growth on the PC platform for them to be able stop putting their games on Steam as well.

Also yes, GamePass will only live on PC by 2027 when I believe Microsoft will retire from the console space.

I make no bones in the fact that I dislike Microsoft.  I think they are an awful company, with awful policies, that make awful business choices.  All of which I laid out in my video

I also believe that those same awful choices and policies will be their downfall for the reasons that I laid out.

Most people are bias towards something, you yourself have "PC Master Race" in your signature!  Like I said, I have the upmost respect for Nintendo, Sony, Steam and even Epic games Store (which I use a fair bit now).

I don't even dislike Xbox and have enjoyed many Xbox games over the years as I separate Xbox the machine from Microsoft the management.  it's the Microsoft part I dislike, and I don't see why I should hide that because that would be dishonest.

1) But your source was flawed it even said so!

2) Why would I make a prediction less opinionated?  It doesn't diminish it in anyway.  People that said the Ouya was shit and wouldn't ever get anywhere weren't wrong just because they didn't like it!

Lmao its something i see a lot in these forums lately.

"You dont know what you are talking about!?!?"

"You dont know understand the bussiness!?!?"

People spend their days on twitter and resetera browsing twitter , following twitter "lawyers" , "gaming experts" etc and think they  all other people is dumb, lock his thread, what a fanboy, drop it cause this guy have a million posts bro he is an expert.

MS seems to be pulling away from Gamepass being it's primary business. 

https://www.gamesindustry.biz/microsoft-drops-game-pass-growth-target-for-ceo-compensation

I don't think it's that serious though. I don't think gamepass is fundamentally broken. They're still selling games outside of gamepass. 

Well it helps that there are only like 3 games like CoD. The vast majority of the industry isn't making CoD. 

"Games like CoD" doesn't really mean much. 

This doesn't really mean that much. I would argue that Starfield was always going to be biggest on PC.

Microsoft has options: Valve has offered to put Gamepass on Steam

A lot of your post really comes off like not even napkin math. 

Microsoft doesn't need to sell 100 million consoles to think it's worth being in the industry. 

Maybe you're right that MS would look at the numbers and decide that being Activision + Bethesda + Xbox being a massive third party selling high margin games and selling gamepass on PlayStation/Nintendo consoles + PC + mobile or something would be worth it. But that decision wouldn't be based on Starfield or Xbox or Gamepass not hitting some arbitrary number. It will be based on an evaluation where they might come to a conclusion that putting these huge games like Starfield and maybe even putting a cut down version of gamepass on PlayStation is worth losing out on licensing fees they get from third parties on their console.