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Chris Hu said:

Microsoft is not leaving the hardware market anytime soon and again ten years from now consoles as we know them now will no longer exists.  But you to dense to realize that and too busy making rubbish Youtube videos that nobody watches besides bots.

nObOdY bEsIdEs BoTs

Sony want to make money by selling art, Nintendo want to make money by selling fun, Microsoft want to make money.

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Hardstuck-Platinum said:

Hellblade 2 just launched and it's not even in the steam top 20. It's peak users wasn't even as high as Hellblade 1, and that was in 2017 when Steam was a smaller platform. Ghosts of Tsushima, a nearly 4 year old PS game topped the Steam charts but a new IP can't get top 20? All of this data suggests that it's sales were terrible but people like you keep insisting that gamepass is a sustainable model 

Hellblade 2 is also made by a small team and possibly cost nothing like a big AAA. You cant base success on sales without knowing the costs and profits of the game. Every game has different targets to hit.

only777 said:

I know you're upset right now; and listen, as an ex-90s Sega Fanboy myself I know how hard it is watching your Team being leveled into the dirt.

So instead of firing back at you; I'm going to be the bigger man here and say:

"It'll be okay.  Nintendo and Sony make great consoles too, and I'm sure in time you can learn to love them like you do the Xbox"

I believe in you

Bruv, I really hope Sony is paying you for all of this.

Iv seen it all now. People trying to recruit others to another plastic box.. its not that deep dude.

Play on what you want, just don't come to the PC side. Thanks.



LudicrousSpeed said:
only777 said:

I wasn't happy that Pemalite was rather mean to my video post and made some untrue assumptions about my post intentions, so to please him, here's where I was going to take that locked thread, but now in text only form.

Ok well for starters, I watched your video. You can't blame him for making assumptions when two seconds into the video you're calling Xbox a "cum filled sock" or something to that effect. Also having watched your video, it's GameFAQS tier console warring trash, full of misinformation and horrific math.

only777 said:

Microsoft has ruined Xbox, the business decision to push Game Pass above all else is a disaster that is playing out in front of us all.

They aren't pushing GamePass above all else, though. They have said GamePass is around 10-15% of their business and that it will remain that way. They also have very high revenue and make a lot of money from Xbox, so where does this "disaster" come from? You seem to be under the assumption that if you aren't selling the most consoles, you aren't making any money.


only777 said:

Starfield not pushing the needle in hardware sales and Gamepass simply doesn't generate the revenue to fund the running and development costs of the Many, many Microsoft Game studios.  I did layout the maths in the video I created, but I'm not linking it again as I don't want to be branded as self promoting.

Good, please don't link that video again. The "math" in the video is horrible and demonstrates a complete lack of understanding of math and of business. You brush off the fact that MS has confirmed GamePass is profitable by essentially saying "its not profitable, trust me bro". You go on to explain that it can't be profitable because Microsoft has spent billions on acquisitions. That's... not how business works.

only777 said:

We saw in the FTC leak the costs of bringing 3rd party games to the service.  We know that games like COD are costing around a billion dollars to get out the door now.  So with all the costs of development and maintenance outweighing what the service is actually bring in, at some point something has to give.

This is the kind of misinformation that your video is chock full of. Which is funny, because you use the term "fake news!!!" throughout your video, and yet here you are literally hand crafting a steaming pile of fake news for us. So just to clear this up, when you say "we know games like CoD cost around a billion dollars to get out the door", what you mean to say is you found a link where someone says a future CoD might cost a billion to put out. But they base that on a complete guess when it comes to the budget of CoD, and then they also connect that to some nonsensical report that some unnamed publisher spent $550,000,000 in marketing for ONE unnamed game. In other words, it's bullshit. Not to mention it's irrelevant. The money spent to get CoD out the door doesn't relate to other games in any way.


only777 said:

Xbox sales are slowing down, Game Pass is not bringing in new users to the Xbox Console eco system, Starfield actually saw two thirds of its sales from PC users.  So what's actually happening here?  Xbox players are migrating to either PC or leaving the system altogether and going to PlayStation.

More unsubstantiated statements with no facts to back them up. Even the one thing you provided a link for, is just UK boxed sales. In other words, yawn.


only777 said:

In a world where the primary Game Pass platform is PC, Microsoft has a problem.  PC gaming is too entrenched in Steam for Microsoft to realistically find more than 50 million users, and with Xbox console sales stalling Microsoft has to do something.

MS doesn't want to find all those users on PC. They don't expect GamePass to reach the levels you're claiming they won't hit.


only777 said:

That something is to become the biggest 3rd party in the industry.  I think Game Pass will continue on as Microsoft's PC subscription service, although all Microsoft studio's titles will see releases on Steam, PlayStation and Nintendo. 

I also think we are looking at the last Xbox generation in the Series X|S consoles.  With Game Pass failing to push Microsoft out of 3rd place, they will refocus their efforts into becoming the biggest powerhouse 3rd party publisher in the industry because this makes the most business sense.

So you say they can't find a good footing on PC because of Steam, and then go on to say PC is the only place GamePass will exist? Also, Microsoft's titles already see releases on Steam.

only777 said:

I believe the timeline will look something like this:

  • 2024: Starfield is announced for PlayStation 5
  • 2026: Xbox Game Pass is re-branded to Microsoft Game Pass
  • 2027: Microsoft announce that there will be no new Xbox consoles

Cocaine is a hell of a drug.

Also, something else regarding your video. Are you like... completely oblivious to the history of Sony or something? You go on about how MS doesn't deserve "credit" for Sea of Thieves because they bought Rare twenty years ago and yet the example you give for Sony creating a great franchise and not just buying it is footage of Last of Us, from Naughty Dog, which Sony bought. This year all they had for software is baseball and Spider-Man, a Marvel IP developed by Insomniac, another studio they bought.

Honest question, we're three years into the generation, has Sony delivered a single high quality new IP? Oh wait I know, Returnal, that game was ok I guess. Made by Housemarque, a studio they bought. Weird.

KLXVER said:

Doesnt matter when they spend 60+ billion to buy a company. They are not making a profit. They spend more than they make. Easy as that.

Another person that doesn't understand how business works.

Let's say you have $1,000. If you leave that money in the bank, after five years you might have $1,060 thanks to interest.

Alternatively, let's say you can take $400 of that money and buy a 3D printer. You then start printing things for people and you make a profit of $50 annually. After five years you have $850 in the bank and a $400 printer. In other words you have $1250 worth of capital. This is a shitty example but it should make it very easy to understand. While it's true, you "spent" $400 on the printer and only profited $250 in those five years, at the end of the day, you are worth more than you are if you just left that money to accrue interest. You can hate business speak all you want, this is accepted accounting methods and all companies use it.

Guess what?  https://www.vgchartz.com/article/465157/microsoft-says-game-pass-is-profitable-claims-does-not-include-first-party-costs/

Once Again I was right.  I told you all that GamePass revene didn't subtract the cost game of development from it's published figure.

But you were all on on the Microsoft propaganda. 

G2, Perma & speed.  I'll await the "You were right" messages here.



Sony want to make money by selling art, Nintendo want to make money by selling fun, Microsoft want to make money.

I am once again reminding you, I was right, have been proved right and will continue to be right.

(Time stamped to the Gamepass point)



Sony want to make money by selling art, Nintendo want to make money by selling fun, Microsoft want to make money.

The only thing you were right about is Microsoft becoming the largest 3rd party publisher and you were super late on that one since that happened once they acquired Activision Blizzard. All the other stuff for the most part is a bunch of rubbish. Stick to making YouTube videos that only get watched by bots instead of making rubbish threads on VGChartz.  Also learn the basic rules of capitalism or take a remedial economy class.  Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo are all capitalistic publicly traded companies, and their only main goal is to make as much profit as possible.

Last edited by Chris Hu - on 03 October 2025

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Chris Hu said:

The only thing you were right about is Microsoft becoming the largest 3rd party publisher and you were super late on that one since that happened once they acquired Activision Blizzard. All the other stuff for the most part is a bunch of rubbish. Stick to making YouTube videos that only get watched by bots instead of making rubbish threads on VGChartz.  Also learn the basic rules of capitalism or take a remedial economy class.  Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo are all capitalistic publicly traded companies, and their only main goal is to make as much profit as possible.

This is a fantasic piece of cope, well done, Bravo!

I said they would have to dramatically raise the price, looks like I was spot on.

I said day one releases on GamePass would kill full price sales, again I was right.

I said the money didn't add up and the whole GamePass prices didn't make sense, I was right again.



Sony want to make money by selling art, Nintendo want to make money by selling fun, Microsoft want to make money.

only777 said:
Chris Hu said:

The only thing you were right about is Microsoft becoming the largest 3rd party publisher and you were super late on that one since that happened once they acquired Activision Blizzard. All the other stuff for the most part is a bunch of rubbish. Stick to making YouTube videos that only get watched by bots instead of making rubbish threads on VGChartz.  Also learn the basic rules of capitalism or take a remedial economy class.  Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo are all capitalistic publicly traded companies, and their only main goal is to make as much profit as possible.

This is a fantasic piece of cope, well done, Bravo!

I said they would have to dramatically raise the price, looks like I was spot on.

I said day one releases on GamePass would kill full price sales, again I was right.

I said the money didn't add up and the whole GamePass prices didn't make sense, I was right again.

You are the one that needs to cope in capitalism you get screwed over by companies all the time no matter how much you like them.  Again, capitalistic companies' main goal is to make as much profits as possible.  Uncontrolled capitalism screws over the majority of the population the only ones that are not affected are the top 10 percent of wage earners they have enough income that they are not affected by price changes or other shady stuff done by companies.



Chris Hu said:
only777 said:

This is a fantasic piece of cope, well done, Bravo!

I said they would have to dramatically raise the price, looks like I was spot on.

I said day one releases on GamePass would kill full price sales, again I was right.

I said the money didn't add up and the whole GamePass prices didn't make sense, I was right again.

You are the one that needs to cope in capitalism you get screwed over by companies all the time no matter how much you like them.  Again, capitalistic companies' main goal is to make as much profits as possible.  Uncontrolled capitalism screws over the majority of the population the only ones that are not affected are the top 10 percent of wage earners they have enough income that they are not affected by price changes or other shady stuff done by companies.

Sooo, are you agreeing with what 777 said, or...?



TheRealSamusAran said:
Chris Hu said:

You are the one that needs to cope in capitalism you get screwed over by companies all the time no matter how much you like them.  Again, capitalistic companies' main goal is to make as much profits as possible.  Uncontrolled capitalism screws over the majority of the population the only ones that are not affected are the top 10 percent of wage earners they have enough income that they are not affected by price changes or other shady stuff done by companies.

Sooo, are you agreeing with what 777 said, or...?

Yeah I think this is an admission of acceptance!



Sony want to make money by selling art, Nintendo want to make money by selling fun, Microsoft want to make money.

TheRealSamusAran said:
Chris Hu said:

You are the one that needs to cope in capitalism you get screwed over by companies all the time no matter how much you like them.  Again, capitalistic companies' main goal is to make as much profits as possible.  Uncontrolled capitalism screws over the majority of the population the only ones that are not affected are the top 10 percent of wage earners they have enough income that they are not affected by price changes or other shady stuff done by companies.

Sooo, are you agreeing with what 777 said, or...?

The only thing I am agreeing with is that Microsoft is the biggest 3rd party developer and he is pretty late to the part on that fact because that happened as soon as they bought Activision Blizzard.  All of his other claims are mostly rubbish just like most of his YouTube videos that are mostly watched by bots.