The back and forth did not originate in this thread, it’s been happening for months over multiple threads.

Wonder ended at a 92 on metacritic; it's not just yet another "New" game in the series.  It managed to take the number one spot in its second and third weeks in the UK, which is not Nintendo's strongest market, it's doing very well in Japan, and the game has consistently been the number one selling game on Amazon in the US, even weeks before its release.  Wonder may not have as much time on the market before a new console arrives as other Mario games have had, but it's actually trending higher in sales than any game in the series.  That bodes well towards its longevity.

It's nonsensical to people predicting 30-40 million but to me it makes perfect sense and it's playing out just like I expected 

I see no evidence here that will cause me to change my opinion of you.

What a great post that really shows the bias and hypocrisy of some people here. Like I make a prediction with reasonable logic and people feel the need to interrogate me about a 20 million prediction while someone saying 2:1  or mario wonder will sell spiderman 2 life time sales in quarter is ok and it should be ok, people can think what ever they like it's just a prediction, and you can use all the data you want most of these so called experts get things wrong all the time.

Wouldn't say that justify this. I have even received warning by mod for a similar stuff with one user where it was even forbidden to interact with one another even though I didn't even use offensive words, but because there was always a heavy discussion that wasn't really healthy.

For me I do expect SM2 ceiling to be 30M and floor 20M, and most likely to end in 25M. For Mario Wonder I expect a possibility of it crossing 30M so for me it should win over SM2 but not by giant margin and wouldn't find it totally odd that SM2 ends up slightly ahead when talking only PS5 and Switch version.

And I certainly don't see any reason to be aggressive with you thinking Wonder will do 20 to 25M as well even if some of your points/reasons I may disagree or may have been using imprecise terms.

If you somehow ended up being right, I doubt that your zeldaring account would still be around by that time. So it's safe to say that regardless of how this plays out, you aren't going to get any apology.

This site clearly has more Nintendo fans than other platforms, it's crazy people thinking that Mario 2D would sell twice as much as Spider Man at launch, even predicting 40-50 million lifetime.

I now predict 50 million for SMWonder just because of the haters! I might buy 25 millions copies myself just because I can.