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Jules98 said:

iOS getting AAA games is cute I guess, but who is this really for?

  • Mobile gamers want a pick-up-and-play experience that can be enjoyed in short bursts
  • Console gamers want the comfort of a controller and large TV screen
  • PC gamers want the flexibility and raw power their hardware can offer

To me, it seems that the potential audience who would care for AAA games on a phone is very limited. A nice extra if you're already entrenched in the Apple ecosystem, but not something that's going to convert people to iOS.

Agreed.  Huge win for Apple fans.  Not so much for anybody else.  I'm not giving up:

1) switch because of Nintendo software 

2) PC because of open system

3) ps5 because of sony software and if sony continues to support PC I'm going steam not apple because of point 2.

I'm not investing hundreds in games in a close ecosystem where I have no hardware choice and upgrades are extremely limited.



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It's also interesting how the market has changed over the years from a %share perspective.

Today, things are very different from 10 years ago.

Market shares by OS worldwide 2023:

Android (Linux kernel, ARM based) - 40%
Windows (PC x86) - 30%
iOS (ARM based) - 17%
MacOS (ARM based) - 9%
Others - 4%

Just 10-12 years ago, Microsoft Windows was the king at 90%, while today Apple devices ecosystem is sitting around 26% Vs Windows at only 30%.
It's also worth noting that about 70% of all devices out there are ARM Vs 30% x86.
There is a reason why Apple, Google, NVidia and also Nintendo are using ARM chips which are catching up in performace to the x86 family, while offering very-low, energy savings, power consumptions.

On one side we have Intel, AMD, Sony and Microsoft bound to an ancient tech, while on the other side we have Apple, Google, Amazon, Qualcomm, NVidia, Nintendo, pushing for a paradigm shift.

Which one of the two sides will prevail in the long run is yet to be discovered, but I see a trend here.


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JimmyFantasy said:

It's also interesting how the market has changed over the years from a %share perspective.

Today, things are very different from 10 years ago.

Market shares by OS worldwide 2023:

Android (Linux kernel, ARM based) - 40%
Windows (PC x86) - 30%
iOS (ARM based) - 17%
MacOS (ARM based) - 9%
Others - 4%

Just 10-12 years ago, Microsoft Windows was the king at 90%, while today Apple devices ecosystem is sitting around 26% Vs Windows at only 30%.
It's also worth noting that about 70% of all devices out there are ARM Vs 30% x86.
There is a reason why Apple, Google, NVidia and also Nintendo are using ARM chips which are catching up in performace to the x86 family, while offering very-low, energy savings, power consumptions.

On one side we have Intel, AMD, Sony and Microsoft bound to an ancient tech, while on the other side we have Apple, Google, Amazon, Qualcomm, NVidia, Nintendo, pushing for a paradigm shift.

Which one of the two sides will prevail in the long run is yet to be discovered, but I see a trend here.


Probably depends on which market.  Consumer or business.  I would suspect business is going to stay with windows for a very long time.  Migrating businesses to new systems is a massive issue.  The company I work for probably has 300k computers and all our systems are based on windows.  And we have hundreds of systems.  

Is your 30% for consumer market only?  Seems low given what most major corporations use.  

From a chemistry perspective all our instruments are Windows.  GC, LC, ICP, FTIR, NRM, etc.  I don't see that changing anytime soon.  



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Just an observation. But whenever Apple announces something new or cool, it never fails to incite these sort of weird defensive posts while shrieking about how they’re not being defensive at the same time almost in the same breath as listing off a bunch of competing platforms or features their other devices have... Like that period where they kept jumping into Apple threads to brag about how they had to navigate on their phone with tactile buttons :D

I wonder what it is about Apple that makes people so threatened that they feel they have to resort to this kind of keyboard activism? But this is the same sort of thing that happened with the original PlayStation and the Wii.



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Jumpin said:

Just an observation. But whenever Apple announces something new or cool, it never fails to incite these sort of weird defensive posts while shrieking about how they’re not being defensive at the same time almost in the same breath as listing off a bunch of competing platforms or features their other devices have... Like that period where they kept jumping into Apple threads to brag about how they had to navigate on their phone with tactile buttons :D

I wonder what it is about Apple that makes people so threatened that they feel they have to resort to this kind of keyboard activism? But this is the same sort of thing that happened with the original PlayStation and the Wii.

Lol, I see it completely different.  Apple is pitched as destroying the competition.  In another thread someone is predicting apple would decimate Sony in the AAA gaming market.  If some apple fans were not so ridiculous this wouldn't get out of hand.  

Apple is a fine company that makes products people love.  But jumping the gun from a single announcement with claims that Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft all need to be worried.....  not too much in your eyes?  Because those claims on VG are being made.

Page 7: "sony's business is at risk."

Nobody is threatened.  We are just taking issue with absurd commentary.

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Chrkeller said:
Jumpin said:

Just an observation. But whenever Apple announces something new or cool, it never fails to incite these sort of weird defensive posts while shrieking about how they’re not being defensive at the same time almost in the same breath as listing off a bunch of competing platforms or features their other devices have... Like that period where they kept jumping into Apple threads to brag about how they had to navigate on their phone with tactile buttons :D

I wonder what it is about Apple that makes people so threatened that they feel they have to resort to this kind of keyboard activism? But this is the same sort of thing that happened with the original PlayStation and the Wii.

Lol, I see it completely different.  Apple is pitched as destroying the competition.  In another thread someone is predicting apple would decimate Sony in the AAA gaming market.  If some apple fans were not so ridiculous this wouldn't get out of hand.  

Apple is a fine company that makes products people love.  But jumping the gun from a single announcement with claims that Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft all need to be worried.....  not too much in your eyes?  Because those claims on VG are being made.

Page 7: "sony's business is at risk."

Nobody is threatened.  We are just taking issue with absurd commentary.

LOL! Thanks for demonstrating my point.



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Chrkeller said:
JimmyFantasy said:

It's also interesting how the market has changed over the years from a %share perspective.

Today, things are very different from 10 years ago.

Market shares by OS worldwide 2023:

Android (Linux kernel, ARM based) - 40%
Windows (PC x86) - 30%
iOS (ARM based) - 17%
MacOS (ARM based) - 9%
Others - 4%

Just 10-12 years ago, Microsoft Windows was the king at 90%, while today Apple devices ecosystem is sitting around 26% Vs Windows at only 30%.
It's also worth noting that about 70% of all devices out there are ARM Vs 30% x86.
There is a reason why Apple, Google, NVidia and also Nintendo are using ARM chips which are catching up in performace to the x86 family, while offering very-low, energy savings, power consumptions.

On one side we have Intel, AMD, Sony and Microsoft bound to an ancient tech, while on the other side we have Apple, Google, Amazon, Qualcomm, NVidia, Nintendo, pushing for a paradigm shift.

Which one of the two sides will prevail in the long run is yet to be discovered, but I see a trend here.


Probably depends on which market.  Consumer or business.  I would suspect business is going to stay with windows for a very long time.  Migrating businesses to new systems is a massive issue.  The company I work for probably has 300k computers and all our systems are based on windows.  And we have hundreds of systems.  

Is your 30% for consumer market only?  Seems low given what most major corporations use.  

From a chemistry perspective all our instruments are Windows.  GC, LC, ICP, FTIR, NRM, etc.  I don't see that changing anytime soon.  

It's an overall data including consumer devices, server, workstation etc



Jumpin said:
Chrkeller said:

Lol, I see it completely different.  Apple is pitched as destroying the competition.  In another thread someone is predicting apple would decimate Sony in the AAA gaming market.  If some apple fans were not so ridiculous this wouldn't get out of hand.  

Apple is a fine company that makes products people love.  But jumping the gun from a single announcement with claims that Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft all need to be worried.....  not too much in your eyes?  Because those claims on VG are being made.

Page 7: "sony's business is at risk."

Nobody is threatened.  We are just taking issue with absurd commentary.

LOL! Thanks for demonstrating my point.

At what?  Because I think people need to pump the breaks on the "Sony is in trouble" comments?  It feels like you didn't read my post.

In summary I'm defensive because I think it is too soon to predict the downfall of sony in gaming???  Lol, OK then.  



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Chrkeller said:
Jumpin said:

LOL! Thanks for demonstrating my point.

At what?  Because I think people need to pump the breaks on the "Sony is in trouble" comments?  It feels like you didn't read my post.

In summary I'm defensive because I think it is too soon to predict the downfall of sony in gaming???  Lol, OK then.  

My post has nothing to do with Sony (other than recalling the massive keyboard activism against PSX fans back in the day). It's that you're literally behaving just like the sorts of weird (yet predictable) reactions my post was describing: getting all defensive while protesting that you're being defensive, and resorting to keyboard activism.

The Sony defence thing was brought up by you as an excuse for your behaviour. Specifically, you're trying to convince me that your indignation is righteous via an overdramatized framing of a short line you found seven pages into this thread. If it's not already obvious to see how that's bullshit, clicking page 7, you already have a post at the top of the page being defensive BEFORE that line you claimed that triggered you :D

You can protest some more, act confused, but I think we're done.



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