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Forums - Sales Discussion - PS5 ships 65.5M by 30.09.2024. LT sales expectations?

 

Lifetime sales expectations

Under 100M 5 11.90%
 
100-110M 18 42.86%
 
110-130M 17 40.48%
 
130M+ 2 4.76%
 
Total:42

Sticking to 150 million +



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120-140 is a very safe bet. It's hard to imagine such expensive console selling +140M units.



Kyuu said:

5. Actually-aggressive pricing didn't do shit for the Series S. So much for PS5 facing a much stronger competition compared to PS4! "PS4 only did well because the Xbox One and the Wii U sucked. PS5 is facing much stronger competition" I was told.

PS5's pricing so far isn't aggressive no matter how you spin it. Let me remind you that everyone whined and bitched about the $70/80 game price, and they whined again (myself included) when the PS5 got a price hike everywhere outside the US, claiming Sony is being super greedy and evil. Funny how quickly the narratives shift!

you reminded me of a gaming podcast I listened years ago. There were these two famous guys, Timdog and "Colt something". They said that the PS4 only sold 2:1 compared to the X1 due to "Don Matrick's" mistakes.

According to them, series S/X would capture a large market share by delivering "unparalleled performance" (series X) and "the best value" (series S).

Well, it looks like they were very wrong. Xbox reports are looking Very weak ( even with Starfield), while PS recent number are Just amazing ( and Spider-man 2 is not even included in their recent numbers). Looks like PS is set to 2:1 Xbox again.

Last edited by Manlytears - on 09 November 2023

Manlytears said:
Kyuu said:

5. Actually-aggressive pricing didn't do shit for the Series S. So much for PS5 facing a much stronger competition compared to PS4! "PS4 only did well because the Xbox One and the Wii U sucked. PS5 is facing much stronger competition" I was told.

PS5's pricing so far isn't aggressive no matter how you spin it. Let me remind you that everyone whined and bitched about the $70/80 game price, and they whined again (myself included) when the PS5 got a price hike everywhere outside the US, claiming Sony is being super greedy and evil. Funny how quickly the narratives shift!

you reminded me of a gaming podcast I listened years ago. There were these two famous guys in the xbox community, Timdog and "Colt something". They said that the PS4 only sold 2:1 compared to the X1 due to "Don Matrick's" mistakes.

According to them, series S/X would capture a large market share by delivering "unparalleled performance" (series X) and "the best value" (series S).

Well, it looks like they were very wrong. Xbox reports are looking Very weak ( even with Starfield), while PS recent number are Just amazing ( and Spider-man 2 is not even included in their recent numbers). Looks like PS is set to 2:1 Xbox again.

Don't forget that for the first year and half when both PS5 and Series were selling very close (due to supply constraints for PS5) we had Satya Nadela celebrating they gained marketshare in USA for 2 consecutive quarters and these famous people plus some users in VGC claimed that PS5 numbers were inflated by scalpers... those were the days, I don't see much discussion or comparison on their sales anymore over here. At twitter we only see obnoxious 6M played SF in 24h as being much better than selling 5M SM2 in 11 days and saying that attach ratio is such a failure (even if Mario Wonder had less sales, in more time and 3x userbase - and yes I expect long term the MW to outsell SM2).



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Manlytears said:
Kyuu said:

5. Actually-aggressive pricing didn't do shit for the Series S. So much for PS5 facing a much stronger competition compared to PS4! "PS4 only did well because the Xbox One and the Wii U sucked. PS5 is facing much stronger competition" I was told.

PS5's pricing so far isn't aggressive no matter how you spin it. Let me remind you that everyone whined and bitched about the $70/80 game price, and they whined again (myself included) when the PS5 got a price hike everywhere outside the US, claiming Sony is being super greedy and evil. Funny how quickly the narratives shift!

you reminded me of a gaming podcast I listened years ago. There were these two famous guys, Timdog and "Colt something". They said that the PS4 only sold 2:1 compared to the X1 due to "Don Matrick's" mistakes.

According to them, series S/X would capture a large market share by delivering "unparalleled performance" (series X) and "the best value" (series S).

Well, it looks like they were very wrong. Xbox reports are looking Very weak ( even with Starfield), while PS recent number are Just amazing ( and Spider-man 2 is not even included in their recent numbers). Looks like PS is set to 2:1 Xbox again.

Colt Eastwood is the ultimate clown. One of the countless misinformation he was spreading is that Series SX sold more than PS5 globally lol. It fascinates me how these idiots got so popular.

But Xbox generally gets overestimated even by ordinary and neutral gamers. The VGChartz community constantly overestimate it, with some getting mad or dick-ish at anyone having more realistic or less positive expectations. It's weird! There is one particular thread that I promised to bump at the end of the year. Prepare your popcorn as dis gone b gud.



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Feedback from PS5 Slim users seems to be really positive.

A lot of users claim there’s a significant size difference between the phat and the Slim.

Also, are there still any users out there thinking it will sell less than 100m units LT??



It doesn’t seem likely that it will sell less than the PS4. It is set to have the highest selling Playstation year ever and the gen will likely be a year longer. So 120-130M.



Kyuu said:
Manlytears said:

you reminded me of a gaming podcast I listened years ago. There were these two famous guys, Timdog and "Colt something". They said that the PS4 only sold 2:1 compared to the X1 due to "Don Matrick's" mistakes.

According to them, series S/X would capture a large market share by delivering "unparalleled performance" (series X) and "the best value" (series S).

Well, it looks like they were very wrong. Xbox reports are looking Very weak ( even with Starfield), while PS recent number are Just amazing ( and Spider-man 2 is not even included in their recent numbers). Looks like PS is set to 2:1 Xbox again.

Colt Eastwood is the ultimate clown. One of the countless misinformation he was spreading is that Series SX sold more than PS5 globally lol. It fascinates me how these idiots got so popular.

But Xbox generally gets overestimated even by ordinary and neutral gamers. The VGChartz community constantly overestimate it, with some getting mad or dick-ish at anyone having more realistic or less positive expectations. It's weird! There is one particular thread that I promised to bump at the end of the year. Prepare your popcorn as dis gone b gud.

Please tag me.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

I'm gonna say 120m, just barely beating out the PS4.



I will repeat it since the messiah isn't here yet because I want his prediction. He thinks he is a dope analyst and he is right : he said PS4 would never beat the Wii. No prediction from him, no credibility.