sundin13 said:
Like, it really doesn't matter what the population of Iran is, and if for some reason he needs to know,
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Strong disagree here. Any war with a country will have costs and risks super-linearly proportional to the population of the country. Knowing the population helps us estimate costs (and risks) in various what-if scenarios.
And that is if we take a purely sociopathic cost-benefit-risk analysis approach, purely interested in the effect on the U.S or Americans and not the effect on Iranians or the region.
Tucker Carlson's point isn't that Ted Cruz doesn't know the exact population statistic, but that he is advocating to go to (or potentially escalate a) war with a country he barely knows anything about and therefore hasn't actually done the cost-benefit-risk analysis for the effect on the U.S. He's done it purely because he knows his Christian nationalist/fundamentalist base supports Israel unconditionally, because of their religious views.
If Ted Cruz said something like "approximately 80-90 million" or "I am not sure the exact number, maybe 85 million?" then nobody would think much about it. Instead he couldn't even give a rough estimate.
Same thing with the ethnic-group question. How can Ted Cruz push to go to a war with another country without estimating the potential fallout and blowback?
Even if it isn't a full-blown war, regime change attempts can mean a civil war that tears Iran apart along ethnic and religious lines and lead to increased terrorism as different groups attempt to fill a power-vacuum. It could mean genocide of minorities.
We saw this with Iraq, Syria, etc.
The problem isn't that Cruz can't remember specific details, it's that he can't even make rough guesses because he hasn't put the work in to inform himself. He doesn't support war with Iran on some rational analysis of how it would benefit the U.S, but because of the religious views of his voters.
I remember ten years ago the Libertarian Gary Johnson said something like "what is Aleppo?" at the start of the Syrian Civil War, and it was a big gaffe. This is on that level, if not greater.
Last edited by sc94597 - on 19 June 2025