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SanAndreasX said:

That's not really objectionable until you put it into context with the salute thing.  



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SanAndreasX said:

There is a difference between guilt and responsibility. I don't know any public figure in Germany or Austria who frames anti-fascism as something that needs to be made up for, it's about being conscious of the facts that led down the dark path and making sure that it doesn't happen again.



Legend11 correctly predicted that GTA IV will outsell Super Smash Bros. Brawl. I was wrong.

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SanAndreasX said:

He said this to the AfD (The New Nazi Party in Germany). The whole speech was just a massive dog whistle.

The Tesla CEO addressed the crowd alongside party leader Alice Weidel, saying that the party is the “best hope for Germany” and calling to “preserve German culture” and “protect the German people.” “It’s good to be proud of German culture, German values, and not to lose that in some sort of multiculturalism that dilutes everything.”

Donald Tusk, prime minister of Poland, said Musk’s speech sounded ominous to him.

“The words we heard from the main actors of the AfD rally about ‘Great Germany’ and ‘the need to forget German guilt for Nazi crimes’ sounded all too familiar and ominous. Especially only hours before the anniversary of the liberation of Auschwitz,” Tusk wrote, referencing the 80th anniversary of the liberation of the most-infamous Nazi death camp.

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Rol said it better than I could. It's not guilt but taking responsibility. Germany did commit one of the biggest atrocities in the world and the responsibility is remembering what led to that point to ensure that it never happens again, of course the Nazi Musk thinks people should stop focusing on the past. "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."

Nobody is telling Germany to still feel guilt about it and keep apologising to the world but not to forget and it's Germany not trying to sweep it under the rug that has kept Nazism at bay, until now, when a Nazi Party is trying to gain power and Musk is telling Germans to forget about their past. But his salute was just him "throwing his heart out to the crowd" Lol.

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Poland must be feeling uncomfortable right now, fucking Nazi Party in Germany and Russia invading eastern Europe. They need to acquire their own nukes, AfD would absolutely let Ukraine be slaughtered by Russia and ally with Russia like the good old days. It's just yet another example of the dozens of how much of a Nazi fuck Musk is.

What the fuck does Musk even know about German culture? Dude is from South Africa and illegally immigrated to America. These "nationalists" bending over backwards for a billionaire foreigner to interfere in their countries politics are the biggest hypocrites ever. Good thing Musk wasn't a Democrat, otherwise they'd be demanding his execution for interfering in their politics.

Trump Administration Wants ‘Regime Change’ In The UK As Starmer Replaces Trudeau As Hate Figure

America-China-Russia is really no different.

Trump's team are morons though, the next UK election will be held after Trump leaves office, Lol.

Communist, Marxist, authoritarian, idiots, CCP (Chinese Community Party) puppets and other terms were trotted out with regular abandon. There was contempt for Starmer’s policies and worldview but most interestingly, there was a sense of pity for all the Britons they ran into.

Fucking America's brain is rotted to an extreme, anyone to the left of Nazism is a Communist now. Lmfao. Starmer is barely left-wing! He's a true centrist to an annoying degree who has tried to appeal to Conservative voters multiple times, a lot of "Socialists/Left" in the UK dislike him precisely because he isn't a left-winger and here's braindead Americans calling him a Communist.

Same idiots label Macron as a left-winger when Macron does everything in his power to avoid working with the left, Lol. America's idea of the political scale is fucking whacky, like I said, anything to the left of fascism in America is considered Communism. Free healthcare? Communist bastard. Better worker rights? Communist bastard. Green energy? Communist bastard. Treating people with respect? Communist bastard.

6 in 10 Britons Hold Unfavourable Opinion of Donald Trump and Elon Musk | Ipsos

  • 63% of Britons hold an unfavourable opinion of president-elect Donald Trump (+5 points from November), 22% favourable (-3). 
  • A similar pattern is observed with Elon Musk, with 63% unfavourable, although fewer Britons are favourable (17%).

Every Constituency in Britain Favours Trade With EU Over US, New Poll Suggests | The Independent

  • The poll and analysis of almost 15,000 people undertaken by YouGov on behalf of Best for Britain shows that across England, Scotland and Wales, almost one in two people (46%) would say the EU should be the Government’s top priority when it comes to trade whereas less than half this number (22%) would opt for the US. 4% would think the Government’s focus should be China while 6% would favour another country.

I really, really, hope, that America's attempts to interfere in European politics actually backfires but that requires people to not be huge hypocrites in picking and choosing when they dislike foreign interference, alongside social media manipulation now that America essentially owns Twitter and has influence over Facebook and TikTok but EU is moving too slow in tackling social medias role in the spread of manipulation and lies.

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shavenferret said:

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Swasticars.



It's quite interesting how the party (AfD) which always told their voters how we need to focus on ourselves and shouldn't let us control by others (especially USA) use someone who isn't German (but US-American) as their "weapon" to get votes.

Like, shouldn't you assholes be the ones who are against Musk interfering in Germany's politics more than any other party if you would follow your own words? But I guess as long as it's some racist asshole, he's welcome



crissindahouse said:

It's quite interesting how the party (AfD) which always told their voters how we need to focus on ourselves and shouldn't let us control by others (especially USA) use someone who isn't German (but US-American) as their "weapon" to get votes.

Like, shouldn't you assholes be the ones who are against Musk interfering in Germany's politics more than any other party if you would follow your own words? But I guess as long as it's some racist asshole, he's welcome

When Obama came over and told UK that BREXIT would be bad for us, I remember a lot of Brits lost their mind, especially Conservatives, they were all "What is this fucking American doing, coming over here, telling us what to do!" but now we see Reform voters, creaming themselves at the thought of Elon Musk actively and directly interfering in UK Politics, Lol.

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