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curl-6 said:

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9540326

Have the forum rules against flaming been discontinued without me noticing?
It's now okay to openly call another user a "dipshit" and face no repercussions?

Don’t worry, a moderator sent me a warning about it two days ago.

Obviously what I did was against forum rules, however, I find it concerning that you are more worried about me calling someone a mean name than you are about the guy who has a history of spreading racist, anti-immigrant misinformation.

This isn’t video games, it’s not like I insulted him over console wars or game sales or graphics, I insulted him because he’s spreading fake stories that are leading to violence against entire communities and when asked to be more responsible and make sure these stories are true before posting them, he goes on a tangent about free speech and says he thinks I’m about to call him a Nazi.



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zorg1000 said:
curl-6 said:

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9540326

Have the forum rules against flaming been discontinued without me noticing?
It's now okay to openly call another user a "dipshit" and face no repercussions?

Don’t worry, a moderator sent me a warning about it two days ago.

Obviously what I did was against forum rules, however, I find it concerning that you are more worried about me calling someone a mean name than you are about the guy who has a history of spreading racist, anti-immigrant misinformation.

This isn’t video games, it’s not like I insulted him over console wars or game sales or graphics, I insulted him because he’s spreading fake stories that are leading to violence against entire communities and when asked to be more responsible and make sure these stories are true before posting them, he goes on a tangent about free speech and says he thinks I’m about to call him a Nazi.

I haven't followed his "history" here but if you feel he is being hateful, then that's something for the mods to deal with. 



curl-6 said:
zorg1000 said:

Don’t worry, a moderator sent me a warning about it two days ago.

Obviously what I did was against forum rules, however, I find it concerning that you are more worried about me calling someone a mean name than you are about the guy who has a history of spreading racist, anti-immigrant misinformation.

This isn’t video games, it’s not like I insulted him over console wars or game sales or graphics, I insulted him because he’s spreading fake stories that are leading to violence against entire communities and when asked to be more responsible and make sure these stories are true before posting them, he goes on a tangent about free speech and says he thinks I’m about to call him a Nazi.

I haven't followed his "history" here but if you feel he is being hateful, then that's something for the mods to deal with. 

Well then maybe get more info before butting in.

I don’t “feel” like the things he is saying are hateful, they simply are. He spread false information about a Muslim immigrant killing kids in the UK which led to riots and he spread false information about Haitian immigrants stealing and eating cats in Springfield, Ohio which has led to bomb threats at the local schools & hospitals.

When confronted about this and telling him to be more responsible and verify if stories like this are true before spreading them, instead of owning up to it, he came up with nonsense rebuttals like “that sounds too hard” and “isn’t it actually a good thing I spread misinformation?” and “freedom of speech!” and “I feel like you’re about to call me a nazi”

Obviously what I said broke forum rules but context matters and that’s probably why a moderator messaged me directly instead of punishing me. There is a huge difference between insulting someone because they think Switch 2 will be more powerful than PS5 Pro and insulting someone because they are spreading racist misinformation that has led to violence and gives nonsense excuses justifying doing so.



When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.

zorg1000 said:
curl-6 said:

I haven't followed his "history" here but if you feel he is being hateful, then that's something for the mods to deal with. 

Well then maybe get more info before butting in.

I don’t “feel” like the things he is saying are hateful, they simply are. He spread false information about a Muslim immigrant killing kids in the UK which led to riots and he spread false information about Haitian immigrants stealing and eating cats in Springfield, Ohio which has led to bomb threats at the local schools & hospitals.

When confronted about this and telling him to be more responsible and verify if stories like this are true before spreading them, instead of owning up to it, he came up with nonsense rebuttals like “that sounds too hard” and “isn’t it actually a good thing I spread misinformation?” and “freedom of speech!” and “I feel like you’re about to call me a nazi”

Obviously what I said broke forum rules but context matters and that’s probably why a moderator messaged me directly instead of punishing me. There is a huge difference between insulting someone because they think Switch 2 will be more powerful than PS5 Pro and insulting someone because they are spreading racist misinformation that has led to violence and gives nonsense excuses justifying doing so.

Misinformation should be debunked in a civil and adult manner. Name calling is counterproductive, it only entrenches people's position. You'll never change somebody's mind by yelling at them.



curl-6 said:
zorg1000 said:

Well then maybe get more info before butting in.

I don’t “feel” like the things he is saying are hateful, they simply are. He spread false information about a Muslim immigrant killing kids in the UK which led to riots and he spread false information about Haitian immigrants stealing and eating cats in Springfield, Ohio which has led to bomb threats at the local schools & hospitals.

When confronted about this and telling him to be more responsible and verify if stories like this are true before spreading them, instead of owning up to it, he came up with nonsense rebuttals like “that sounds too hard” and “isn’t it actually a good thing I spread misinformation?” and “freedom of speech!” and “I feel like you’re about to call me a nazi”

Obviously what I said broke forum rules but context matters and that’s probably why a moderator messaged me directly instead of punishing me. There is a huge difference between insulting someone because they think Switch 2 will be more powerful than PS5 Pro and insulting someone because they are spreading racist misinformation that has led to violence and gives nonsense excuses justifying doing so.

Misinformation should be debunked in a civil and adult manner. Name calling is counterproductive, it only entrenches people's position. You'll never change somebody's mind by yelling at them.

Read the conversation, it was civil until the person proved that they are either a troll or “insert mean name” in which case, logic and reasoning aren’t going to sway them.

Again, it’s really odd that me saying a mean word is so appalling to you but the person spreading racist stories that did in fact spread violence is treated with kid gloves.

“make sure to be nice to the person spreading made up racist/anti-immigrant/Islamophobic stories that incite violence! We wouldn’t want to offend them!”



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zorg1000 said:
curl-6 said:

Misinformation should be debunked in a civil and adult manner. Name calling is counterproductive, it only entrenches people's position. You'll never change somebody's mind by yelling at them.

Read the conversation, it was civil until the person proved that they are either a troll or “insert mean name” in which case, logic and reasoning aren’t going to sway them.

Again, it’s really odd that me saying a mean word is so appalling to you but the person spreading racist stories that did in fact spread violence is treated with kid gloves.

“make sure to be nice to the person spreading made up racist/anti-immigrant/Islamophobic stories that incite violence! We wouldn’t want to offend them!”

And it's odd to me that your response to something as simple as "we shouldn't flame people" is to try to twist things to paint me as a villain, but it seems to be par for the course for American political discourse.

Given that you did receive a warning, the only reason I commented is satisfied.



curl-6 said:
zorg1000 said:

Read the conversation, it was civil until the person proved that they are either a troll or “insert mean name” in which case, logic and reasoning aren’t going to sway them.

Again, it’s really odd that me saying a mean word is so appalling to you but the person spreading racist stories that did in fact spread violence is treated with kid gloves.

“make sure to be nice to the person spreading made up racist/anti-immigrant/Islamophobic stories that incite violence! We wouldn’t want to offend them!”

And it's odd to me that your response to something as simple as "we shouldn't flame people" is to try to twist things to paint me as a villain, but it seems to be par for the course for American political discourse.

Given that you did receive a warning, the only reason I commented is satisfied.

Because it’s a really weird thing to fixate on given the other persons comments, it’s like if this was a conversation.

Person #1-We need another Holocaust

Person #2-You’re a piece of shit

Person #3-Name calling is against the rules



When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.

zorg1000 said:
curl-6 said:

And it's odd to me that your response to something as simple as "we shouldn't flame people" is to try to twist things to paint me as a villain, but it seems to be par for the course for American political discourse.

Given that you did receive a warning, the only reason I commented is satisfied.

Because it’s a really weird thing to fixate on given the other persons comments, it’s like if this was a conversation.

Person #1-We need another Holocaust

Person #2-You’re a piece of shit

Person #3-Name calling is against the rules

Legit's comments had already been debunked and addressed by multiple others, it hardly felt like my input was needed.

My concern was only ever the application of forum rules, not because of this specific case, but because for a while it's seemed like moderation is lot less strict nowadays. That's literally all.

Now that I know the mods did step in, my concern's been addressed, and given we've reached the point of Godwin's Law being invoked, it seems there's little more to be gained from this tangent.