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I don't think Biden is stepping down voluntarily.

Project 2025 is becoming a very good attack angle at least.

Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 13 July 2024

Joe is not going to step down and there are no good mechanisms of replacing him involuntarily. The sooner the Trump opposition realizes this the better.

They are aiming their shots at the wrong target.

They took the wrong lesson from the debate. They saw it and said "Oh shit, he's definitely going to lose, we better abandon him."

They should have thought "Oh shit, he might lose, we gotta work harder to make sure he wins."

Everyone who criticized his performance will fall in line and vote for him anyway. They need to convince the other folks who have been made less sure because of their pointed criticism.

No candidate for president will ever agree to a debate before they have officially secured the nomination at the convention again because of this episode.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1gWECYYOSo

Please Watch/Share this video so it gets shown in Hollywood.

Little bit of levity.

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I will do all that I can to see that President Biden is re-elected. Why? Despite my disagreements with him on particular issues, he has been the most effective president in the modern history of our country and is the strongest candidate to defeat Donald Trump — a demagogue and pathological liar. It’s time to learn a lesson from the progressive and centrist forces in France who, despite profound political differences, came together this week to soundly defeat right-wing extremism.

I strongly disagree with Mr. Biden on the question of U.S. support for Israel’s horrific war against the Palestinian people. The United States should not provide Benjamin Netanyahu’s right-wing extremist government with another nickel as it continues to create one of the worst humanitarian disasters in modern history.

I strongly disagree with the president’s belief that the Affordable Care Act, as useful as it has been, will ever address America’s health care crisis. Our health care system is broken, dysfunctional and wildly expensive and needs to be replaced with a “Medicare for all” single-payer system. Health care is a human right.

And those are not my only disagreements with Mr. Biden.

But for over two weeks now, the corporate media has obsessively focused on the June presidential debate and the cognitive capabilities of a man who has, perhaps, the most difficult and stressful job in the world. The media has frantically searched for every living human being who no longer supports the president or any neurologist who wants to appear on TV. Unfortunately, too many Democrats have joined that circular firing squad.

Yes. I know: Mr. Biden is old, is prone to gaffes, walks stiffly and had a disastrous debate with Mr. Trump. But this I also know: A presidential election is not an entertainment contest. It does not begin or end with a 90-minute debate.

Enough! Mr. Biden may not be the ideal candidate, but he will be the candidate and should be the candidate. And with an effective campaign that speaks to the needs of working families, he will not only defeat Mr. Trump but beat him badly. It’s time for Democrats to stop the bickering and nit-picking.

I understand that some Democrats get nervous about having to explain the president’s gaffes and misspeaking names. But unlike the Republicans, they do not have to explain away a candidate who now has 34 felony convictions and faces charges that could lead to dozens of additional convictions, who has been hit with a $5 million judgment after he was found liable in a sexual abuse case, who has been involved in more than 4,000 lawsuits, who has repeatedly gone bankrupt and who has told thousands of documented lies and falsehoods.

Supporters of Mr. Biden can speak proudly about a good and decent Democratic president with a record of real accomplishment. The Biden administration, as a result of the American Rescue Plan, helped rebuild the economy during the pandemic far faster than economists thought possible. At a time when people were terrified about the future, the president and those of us who supported him in Congress put Americans back to work, provided cash benefits to desperate parents and protected small businesses, hospitals, schools and child care centers.

After decades of talk about our crumbling roads, bridges and water systems, we put more money into rebuilding America’s infrastructure than ever before — which is projected to create millions of well-paying jobs. And we did not stop there. We made the largest-ever investment in climate action to save the planet. We canceled student debt for nearly five million financially strapped Americans. We cut prices for insulin and asthma inhalers, capped out-of-pocket costs for prescription drugs and got free vaccines to the American people. We battled to defend women’s rights in the face of moves by Trump-appointed jurists to roll back reproductive freedom and deny women the right to control their own bodies.

So, yes, Mr. Biden has a record to run on. A strong record. But he and his supporters should never suggest that what’s been accomplished is sufficient. To win the election, the president must do more than just defend his excellent record. He needs to propose and fight for a bold agenda that speaks to the needs of the vast majority of our people — the working families of this country, the people who have been left behind for far too long.

At a time when the billionaires have never had it so good and when the United States is experiencing virtually unprecedented income and wealth inequality, over 60 percent of Americans live paycheck to paycheck, real weekly wages for the average worker have not risen in over 50 years, 25 percent of seniors live each year on $15,000 or less, we have a higher rate of childhood poverty than almost any other major country, and housing is becoming more and more unaffordable — among other crises.

This is the wealthiest country in the history of the world. We can do better. We must do better. Joe Biden knows that. Donald Trump does not. Joe Biden wants to tax the rich so that we can fund the needs of working families, the elderly, the children, the sick and the poor. Donald Trump wants to cut taxes for the billionaire class. Joe Biden wants to expand Social Security benefits. Donald Trump and his friends want to weaken Social Security. Joe Biden wants to make it easier for workers to form unions and collectively bargain for better wages and benefits. Donald Trump wants to let multinational corporations get away with exploiting workers and ripping off consumers. Joe Biden respects democracy. Donald Trump attacks it.

This election offers a stark choice on issue after issue. If Mr. Biden and his supporters focus on these issues — and refuse to be divided and distracted — the president will rally working families to his side in the industrial Midwest swing states and elsewhere and win the November election. And let me say this as emphatically as I can: For the sake of our kids and future generations, he must win.

Opinion | Bernie Sanders: Joe Biden for President - The New York Times



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Ryuu96 said:
Machiavellian said:

The thing is, most voters do not watch debates, they have already made up their mind about who they want in office just based on who the other candidate they are running against.  There are no mysteries between Trump and Biden.  It would be different if either one were unknows, but everyone has had both in office for 4 years, so they know what they are getting.  Dems are always stupid in this situation because if they were smart, they would just promote what the administration has done and forget about the flubs from Biden because it's not like this is anything new.  He has been doing this his entire career in politics.

Biden age isn't giving any more advantage to Trump then Trump losing criminal cases are giving any more advantage to Biden.  The majority of America has already made up their minds so for the few undecided people still out there, you just need to put the message of which administration you want to see.

Genuinely don't know anymore, all I know is that it has to be Biden or Harris.

Feel awful for Americans who will suffer under Trump but if it comes to pass then Europe needs to focus on Europe. We're on the verge of being backstabbed by America, I hope Europe is ready for it.

Even if its Trump it really isn't going to make a big difference.  What I mean by that is he can only do so much and if the GOP doesn't control both house and Senate his ability to really do anything permanent is great.  Yeah, he probably going to do a lot of dumb GOP shit but its not like if any other dumb GOP candidate got into office it would not happen.  The only difference is that he is old and just want to eat and play Golf.  I am not worried about another Trump administration because to be honest, nothing really changed that much for myself or my family during his term but then again that is with most presidents.  The thing is, if America is willing to put Trump back in office, then America is should get the full treatment because only through real pain do people actually understand the consequences of their actions or in certain situations no action.



Netanyahu outplayed Biden again with today's Al Mawasi massacre. The muslim votes he needs are focused on the now.

US Muslim group to Biden: ‘Stop enabling these daily massacres’

The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) says Israel is acting with impunity, knowing that it will continue to receive US support despite its atrocities against Palestinians.

“President Biden’s continuing support for and silence about the genocide gives a green light for more Israeli abuses and war crimes,” CAIR Executive Director Nihad Awad said in a statement.

“President Biden must stop enabling these daily massacres and end our nation’s complicity in genocide. Administration officials must begin to treat Palestinians as human beings worthy of life, dignity and justice, not as animals only fit for slaughter.”

 

At least 90 Palestinians reported killed in Israeli strike targeting Hamas military chief
https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/13/middleeast/mawasi-deif-israel-hamas-gaza-intl/index.html

‘Not absolutely certain’ that Hamas’ Deif killed: Netanyahu

The prime minister said he approved the strike after receiving satisfactory information on collateral damage and the type of ammunition to be used.

The Israeli prime minister has suggested that even if the al-Mawasi attack that killed 90 Palestinians did not succeed in assassinating top Hamas officials, it is still beneficial to Israel.

“Just the attempt to assassinate Hamas commanders delivers a message to the world, a message that Hamas’s days are numbered,” he said. “And this is what I will be doing next week at the US Congress. I will deliver Israel’s message to the United States and the entire world.”


Biden needs to do something to stop Netanyahu if he wants any of the swing votes. The anger against Biden will only continue to grow while he keeps funding daily massacres.

And Deif having been there is highly unlikely, just another lie. Look into the history of the man. Israel's propaganda will convince the Israel supporters, but not those Biden needs the vote from.

But at least he's pointing out Trump is even worse than him... Project 2025.

If it weren't for the danger to the rest of the world, I would say the US fully deserves another round of Trump, to come to their senses.



I'm going to be angry with Americans if Trump is re-elected but we need to remember it will be the non-Trump voters who will suffer the most, I suppose Trump destroying the economy will affect everyone but the white males are largely going to go by unscathed, it's the LGBTQ+ community that's going to be attacked and demonised, it's women who will have their rights ripped away, already are thanks to Trump's poison. Muslims will again be treated like shit, everyone is just going to be labelled as a "Pro-Hamas Terrorist Supporter"

The Supreme Court is already ripping up 40+ years of American laws like Roe v Wade, Chevron, etc. The SC will also decide what these "official" acts are and Trump will stack the SC further with even more MAGA lunatics, another Trump term won't just be a 4 year thing, the effects will be felt for many more years due to America's utterly insane lifetime SC appointments and whatever nutjob Trump appoints there.

It's very short-sighted to think another Trump presidency will only be felt for 4 years, it's also a bit of a privileged take to say that you won't be affected and I also think it's naïve to think that America is this iron-clad protected country where nothing possibly can go wrong with its institutions, Project 2025 is designed to rip those institutions up. The assumption that America is immune to this is a dangerous one.

Not to mention all the shitshow that will happen to Europe.

Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 13 July 2024

Yeah...This is scary, no good will come out of this, will only embolden him and encourage his lunatic fanbase to respond with violence.

If you're going to shoot the guy...I won't finish this sentence but this fucking idiot just handed Trump the election.



Just saw a video of the Epstein candidate getting shot in the ear at a rally.