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For or against the acquisition? | |||
| For | 58 | 41.43% | |
| Against | 54 | 38.57% | |
| Neutral | 28 | 20.00% | |
| Total: | 140 | ||
I usually say I'm against the purchase, just based on the size of Activision Blizzard. I'm not a huge fan of any third party getting gobbled up and the games taken away from another gamer. I don't personally buy or like Activision games, I've never played a Call of Duty game and never will. I think the last Activision game I actually spent money on was Diablo 3 shortly after it released on the ps4. If Microsoft wanted these games so badly, I'd rather they just make a 10 year exclusive gamepass deal for the games. I do have an Xbox One S, and may one day buy an Xbox Series S, and I really doubt getting Activision games on Gamepass is going to magically make me like Activision games and play them on gamepass. I'd rather Microsoft if they are going to buy a third party, go after something they don't do well, they already have some of the best 1st persons shooter series exclusive to Xbox as it is.
I'm for it, I'm yet to see a compelling fact-based argument as to why it should be blocked.
The resulting entity would be 3rd by revenue behind Tencent Game and Playstation.
As for the number of employees I believe they would be 2nd behind Tencent games but found limited data on this, let me know if you have better info.
CMA issues with the deals only revolve around CoD. Still, Minecraft has already shown MS was not going to take away CoD from the competition and they have more than enough shown their flexibility in regards to that franchise. Steam and Nintendo user stand also benefits from the deal in regards to Cod.
As gtotheunit91 pointed out the issue regarding unions the FTC used is blatantly false.
The prevailing argument I see against this deal from other users is that you never saw Sony doing it on this level so Microsoft should not either. But here is the thing, Microsoft's possibilities are not limited and should not be limited by what Sony has or has not done.
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LurkerJ said:
Again, I don't see how bring culture change is sound reasoning for cultural change at Activision.
Starting new studios with big budgets backed by the biggest wallet in the world (MS) and poaching those developers from the clutch of Activision sounds like a better plan for everyone, and this is just a quick example of how you solve a problem for workers. Many better examples out there for sure. |
Well if they did that they wouldn't have all the IPs that come with Activision-Blizzard. That's a big part of why they went for this transaction.
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I'm against the acquisition of a major publisher on a personal level: all their mulitplatform titles will become exclusive, and permanently so.
But I'm for it on a business level, because it's just a really good get business wise for Microsoft. And I think it's going to prop up their gaming devision quite a lot,
| LurkerJ said:
Few good points raised here. Happy to discuss. "Why doesn't MS invest in their own studios?" Nadella has answered this question before, here is a direct quote:
Risk taking and re-inventing the wheel is just not in Microsoft DNA or corporate culture. and because I am doing my best to avoid inflammatory commentary, I am going to concede that this naturally happens any giant company that benefit from the current status quo. |
He's not wrong though, while you can build a new studio from the ground up and MS have done so many times in the past, the investment MS is now willing to make, makes it impossible to grow only organically or else it would be decades before they can profits from their efforts. Acquisitions are the only way for such investment. Also MS is growing internally, it's not like The initiative, for instance, was all done the moment they announced it's creation, they are still growing as are all Xbox studios whether build or acquired.
| LurkerJ said:
As for union supporting the deals, I don't have enough information to comment on the matter beyond what I see in the headlines. Nor I believe support from the unions = good. This couldn't be more relevant especially how American rail workers got screwed over literally days ago by the union bosses no less. You can watch this video to understand what I am talking about. I know unions support has become a recurring talking point, but unions are not infallible. |
Unions' support does not auto = good. However the FTC and political argument that try to argue the deal should be block in a bid for unions is disingenuous.
But adding to that I will argue that Unions' support does = good for unions.
and Unions' support does = good for workers in the vast majority of case and don't think it serve a real purpose to highlight the extremely few of it not being the case in the context of this deal. Unions being good for workers are their purpose after all, if it's not the case anymore it's an argument against unionization not an argument against a deal that unions support.
| LurkerJ said:
"With how much scrutiny MS is getting from this acquisition, so who knows who else MS is referring to." Ubisoft? EA? any studio that gives them a stronger hold over Europe? we've seen countless statements from Microsoft about their intents to buy more studios, literally the next day Bethesda was bought, Nadella said he'd do it again. Similarly after the Acti/Blizzard announced, we heard similar statements from Microsoft. I can see why we may not witness that vulgar display of power these days, but I think it's dangerous to assume that "once Acti/Blizzard is approved, MS won't do it again" because, A, MS said otherwise, B, approving the biggest tech merger in history will embolden MS even more. |
Yes and no logics tell me they won't try a deal on that scale anymore unless this one does not pass. The thing is Microsoft's renewed faith in the Xbox division is caused by it's strong beliefs that GamePass could be humongous and that it needs more content to provide enough growth to reach it's potential. But there's a limit to this. There's a point where pumping new content faster won't do anything anymore as you'll be far in the diminishing return territory (the point were user don't need any more reason to subscribe). 1 AAA release/quarter, like MS previously mentioned as their goal, fine, 1 AAA/2 month yeah maybe I'll be missing on many of those, 1 AAA / month clearly Gamepass does not need this. Of course, some lesser acquisition might still occur but if MS wants to stay efficient uncontrolled growth is not the way to go.
But if I'm wrong, well Microsoft may try I guess, but this deal cannot be blocked because MS may do another in the future, that's not a valid argument. As bad as the FTC arguments are, even them ain't arguing as such.
| LurkerJ said:
"there may be hope yet that the culture of ActiBlizz may actually turn around" It's good that we're pointing out problems that need solving, but I believe many people have jumped to the wrong solution. Will this acquisition help the workers of a specific company? It well may do! But corporate consolidation is far the only solution out there to improve labour conditions nor it should be. There are better things that can be to ensure game developers are treated fairly in Activision and across the globe. |
Sure but still acquisition by a renowned company in the field of great working conditions is sure a way to achieve this goal and a fast way a that. There's alternatives sure, but it does not remove the merits of this deal it that regard.