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Zippy6 said:
crissindahouse said:

Ok just got some keys for Ultimate before they also get more expensive so I'm fine for a long time now but it's still bad. These price increases the last years are crazy considering how much the payroll of people increases a year and just counting all the extra stuff into the calculation like Klob does is also stupid.

Yes it's just for PR reasons and Klob is pushing that for them. Including an $8/month subscription doesn't make the subscription worth $8/month more if you don't give a crap about what it adds.

It's like when cable tv forced you into paying for a bunch of channels you didn't want lol.

I feel like having a single Game Pass tier with add-ons you can add one at a time would be better. 



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Zippy6 said:

Raising the price the month before the next CoD, and CoD being the only game that's explicitly excluded from being on the lower tiers at a later date makes me really interested to know how much damage including CoD on gamepass did for Blackops 6 sales.

BO6 made the most revenue of all COD games, it is probably no damage at all but greed.  Their will be some who go to a lower tier but will be like 'Will I spend 10 dollars more to get COD or buy the game?'






firebush03 said:

$30/month for GPUltimate? Yeah…ouch. That’s a 50% price hike. Microsoft is getting a little bold despite having so little market share.

and premium was without call of duty?
And 2 tiers now without day1 games...

at 30$ a month, that's like buying a new game every 2nd month.... at that point, I think it loses the "value" tag its so often been getting.
"Oooh game pass is great value!" 

Not at 30$ a month.



Zippy6 said:

Raising the price the month before the next CoD, and CoD being the only game that's explicitly excluded from being on the lower tiers at a later date makes me really interested to know how much damage including CoD on gamepass did for Blackops 6 sales.

I remember people saying "time will tell" how much MS valued the lost revenue/profits of supposed lost sales due to people having gamepass.
And the argument always ended in "time will tell, lets see what happend when the next CoD is released".

The proof is in the pudding.
It cost them too much.

Hence the no more day1, CoD not being in gp anymore, and the prices going up.
Also them raising the price to 30$ a month.... and the only gain is just 1440p streaming.... That is a tough sell imo.



I've got Game Pass Ultimate maxed out at 3 years, so I don't need to think about it for now. Though I do wonder if I've gotten my values worth out of it this year at $360/year.

I believe these are the new releases from this year I've played via Game Pass

  • Ninja Gaiden 2 Black
  • Avowed
  • South of Midnight
  • Doom: The Dark Ages
  • Elder Scrolls 4 Oblivion Remastered
  • FBC Firebreak
  • Gears of War Reloaded
  • Deep Rock Galactic Survivor
  • Ninja Gaiden 4 (Plan on playing)
  • Outer Worlds 2 (Plan on playing)
  • Keeper (Plan on playing)

That probably makes it worth it. But I also mainly just game on my PC, so once my Ultimate is up I might swap to PC Game Pass IF it still exists in 3 years.



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JRPGfan said:
Zippy6 said:

Raising the price the month before the next CoD, and CoD being the only game that's explicitly excluded from being on the lower tiers at a later date makes me really interested to know how much damage including CoD on gamepass did for Blackops 6 sales.

I remember people saying "time will tell" how much MS valued the lost revenue/profits of supposed lost sales due to people having gamepass.
And the argument always ended in "time will tell, lets see what happend when the next CoD is released".

The proof is in the pudding.
It cost them too much.

Hence the no more day1, CoD not being in gp anymore, and the prices going up.
Also them raising the price to 30$ a month.... and the only gain is just 1440p streaming.... That is a tough sell imo.

Like I mentioned above they made the most money with BO6 of all the COD games (Acitivision) while also being on Gamepass nothing points to a loss but Greed. They know some will just buy the game instead while a bunch will upgrade the Gamepass tier so they even get more $$$.

Anyway I suspect many will upgrade in 2026 because will you buy FH6? Gears Eday? Halo game? Fable ? and more...

Anyway how many first day releases we had this year and last year so we can have a guess what 75 day one releases mean?  (Ubisoft will then have a few)






Wow, my reward points were severely cut. Fuck you, Xbox. It won't be long before they remove them entirely.



Bite my shiny metal cockpit!

GPU Price Increases
July 2023 - $17
July 2024 - $20
October 2025 - $30

Wild that in the space of 16 months it's gone from $17/month to $30/month.



I feel like Microsoft is trying to firmly draw the line in the sand between those who prefer to buy their games, and those that play so many games that they will stick to the subscription path no matter what and throwing as many bones in there to keep them subscribed.

Consequences of trying for so long to lean your audiences towards Game Pass. Over the past year, they've been pushing Play Anywhere just as hard as Game Pass. Which, the entire point of Play Anywhere is you BUYING the games.

So, choose which side you prefer. Microsoft will be happy with either or.



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G2ThaUNiT said:

I feel like Microsoft is trying to firmly draw the line in the sand between those who prefer to buy their games, and those that play so many games that they will stick to the subscription path no matter what and throwing as many bones in there to keep them subscribed.

Consequences of trying for so long to lean your audiences towards Game Pass. Over the past year, they've been pushing Play Anywhere just as hard as Game Pass. Which, the entire point of Play Anywhere is you BUYING the games.

So, choose which side you prefer. Microsoft will be happy with either or.

Hike the price of their consoles, and retailers stop selling them. Few were buying them anyway. Hike the price of Gamepass which was not gaining significant new people. MS seems just flat out fucking stupid. They are still the reigning champs of slamming their dick in the door.



Bite my shiny metal cockpit!