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Ryuu96 said:

Just to be clear, it's a UK law, not an EU law, although the EU will very likely have a similar law in the near future, the UK is basically volunteering themselves as a test bed for this shitty law, similar laws are in some American States, the UK's law takes things a step further, it goes beyond just porn, anything which could result in a child being exposed to 18+ content is locked behind age verification now and it has been so sloppily implemented that companies don't even know what to restrict now, BlueSky is also disabling DMs unless age verified and so will others.

As for Xbox, IIRC South Korea has a similar law but any account over 18 years old doesn't need to verify their identity, for Xbox I imagine if you've used a CC to purchase anything that will be another age verification method. The reason it is being expanded to other countries is because this is the direction the world is heading in unless we push back against it, stop it in the UK or else others will copy.

I am not against age verification for child protection. But these shoddy laws put the fifth step before the first. The problem is that the age verification itself is a complicated matter, but the law just dumps the obligation to do a verification onto companies and in the case of the UK law even small organization or single persons if they have a website with communication features, but fails to specify any regulation for these verification systems. As a result I foresee a lot of tea app disasters in the future. Companies will overreach with information gathering, probably by scanning id cards, and as they will be incredibly stupid with it, things will leak. And id cards contain very sensitive informations about the people in question.

What *should* happen is that lawmakers regulate the space of age verification systems, probably through certification or better yet by offering age verification as a service from the state. This includes safety for the gathered data and assurances to only release the needed informations to clients (aka only a >18 yes/no without further informations). *Only* once certified age verification systems are running stable and early problems are ironed out, then is the time to dump the obligation to use them on website owners.



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shikamaru317 said:

Meanwhile I just saw Youtube is rolling out AI to detect if a user is under 18 or not, if Youtube determines that the videos you watch align with the viewing interests of a teen or a child instead of the viewing interests of an adult, it will override your claimed age and age restrict videos if you don't verify your age.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/youtube-is-using-ai-to-verify-user-age-by-browsing-activity/ar-AA1JALHe?ocid=BingNewsSerp

Yeah, this can only go well...



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Shaunodon said:

"A unregulated internet is way better for corporations than a regulated one."

Not if they're the ones regulating and controlling it...

In what way.  Regulated means you always need to get laws done and have to work against multiple different governments and agencies.  You act as if this is something easy or simple to do and the amount of coordination just to get enough people on your payroll to accomplish anything is a nightmare. Just the scope of regulation alone is huge especially when you have to pay huge amounts of cash to bride and get things done and you have to hope the people you bribe stay in power and or public sentiment doesn't change where new laws come into play against what you want.  The majority of corporate lobby groups always look to find ways to deregulate not regulate because its way better and easier in a unregulated industry.

As I stated, this definitely looks like a Law maker play for more control of the internet and you can believe corporations really would like for the Law makers to stay out of the way because once they come in, doing business is going to be real big pain.



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Machiavellian said:

You are not telling me anything I do not know, what I am saying is why would Law makers and corporations need a law to get your data when there are so many ways that data is already giving out and freely sold between corporations already.  Why institute something that bring focus to something they already get for free with no effort.  

If they wanted to have easy access to your data, then instead of making laws, they would just deregulate instead.  Much easier to deregulate and allow unfettered tracking of individuals online than making some obscure law based on children access to adult content.

Because it's not just winning on one topic. The government wins because more control (a.k.a. we know best what is good for you). Corporations win because making money. implementing and sustaining a government mandate like this is not gratis. There is a business model here. And guess what. As a gamer you will be paying one way or the other.

That is not winning because once the government gets involved then you see a slew of regulations start to drop and you cannot control all of it.  People think its easy to regulate governments and laws by corporations but its not.  Corporations never want anything regulated and I have never seen any corporations trying to get any laws passed for regulations.  If a law is passed they would want the least amount of regulation as possible because it never makes sense having to jump through a whole lot of hoops and red tape to get things done.

Also what corporations would want any of this age verification laws.  You would have to sell me on who does it actually benefit and what industry and why because for the life of me I cannot think of one.  All your data is already out there on the web and all the data you use to access anything is there for the picking without any need for some age verification. 



Machiavellian said:

That is not winning because once the government gets involved then you see a slew of regulations start to drop and you cannot control all of it.  People think its easy to regulate governments and laws by corporations but its not.  Corporations never want anything regulated and I have never seen any corporations trying to get any laws passed for regulations.  If a law is passed they would want the least amount of regulation as possible because it never makes sense having to jump through a whole lot of hoops and red tape to get things done.

Big and established companies want regulations that make it harder for new and upcoming companies to compete. They sometimes work with lawmakers and often it is then some bureaucratic bullshit big companies can implement but that slows new ones down a lot.

Machiavellian said:

Also what corporations would want any of this age verification laws.  You would have to sell me on who does it actually benefit and what industry and why because for the life of me I cannot think of one.  All your data is already out there on the web and all the data you use to access anything is there for the picking without any need for some age verification. 

Yeah, that seems not in favor of any company. But it could work out for the bigger ones once they establish some verfification system, because again the new companies will face extreme risk with this law.



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