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Ryuu96 said:

These dudes all need to STFU, if Starfield was considered then that means that nothing was off the table to begin with. They don't have to keep spreading rumors that XYZ are being ported to PlayStation 



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G2ThaUNiT said:

Sounds like those at Xbox are surprised at how insane the rumors are lol. Really on them though to take their sweet time in addressing the rumors. Sure you don't expect them to respond to every single rumor that comes up, but this one you'd think would be big enough to address asap.

Imagine if it really is just Hi Fi and Sea of Thieves

I wonder if most of the rumors (aside from Hi-Fi and SoT) were just false news passed to the "leakers".



Ryuu96 said:

Seems pretty consistent that either

- people don't know what MS is doing

- MS still doesn't quite know what they're doing, as things are still up in the air.

Ryuu96 said:

Well, it looks like either way someone's credibility is about to take a hit, Lmao.

Pretty sure Nate has generally been more reliable.

Especially Nick from Xbox Era, he's gotten tons of things wrong. Maybe his co-worker has better sources though.



There were many analysts in the article section who claimed Xbox's silence on the matter was confirmation that all the rumors were true.



...to avoid getting banned for inactivity, I may have to resort to comments that are of a lower overall quality and or beneath my moral standards.

Apparently Grubbins implied that Klobrille was toxic today and created a bit of a fracas, Klobrille was offended by the remark. I'd take Klobrille any day of the week over Grubb and his supposed insider knowledge.



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shikamaru317 said:

Apparently Grubbins implied that Klobrille was toxic today and created a bit of a fracas, Klobrille was offended by the remark. I'd take Klobrille any day of the week over Grubb and his supposed insider knowledge.

using photoshop is toxic Kappa

Leave the damn squirrel alone



Corporations should be decisive with their direction. Not this game that game, maybe this one (going third party), maybe not the next one etc.
Either publish across consoles or don't. Fair play if they keep a core on Xbox and PC that doesn't transfer (Forza, Gears, Halo, Fable), but everything else..

..either make the call you will fund development of Gamepass games (and stem any losses from it) by allowing the same titles to sell at full price broadly, or keep as much exclusive to xbox console as you can, and be prepared to make a severe loss on game development until you do, to gradually build xbox as *the* must have console.

It is all a case of which is more core.. making profit and avoid losses, or building xbox's console market share. My feeling is the former wins, but they'll need a way to grow Gamepass beyond PC, and it is a bad idea to place it on Switch or Playstation (which I firmly believe neither will agree to anyway), so Gamepass ironically is likely to fail without options beyond what is currently available to consumers.

Get it on tv's, and get to market with a much cheaper device. Time for a plug and play xbox streaming dongle packaged with a controller for $149 or less. Leave your competition hundreds of dollars more expensive as an entry to current gen gaming, and Gamepass the only place to play MS Studio games other than at full price.
Get some momentum behind xbox again, and then come out with a handheld to match.



Gettysburg4 said:

Corporations should be decisive with their direction. Not this game that game, maybe this one (going third party), maybe not the next one etc.
Either publish across consoles or don't. Fair play if they keep a core on Xbox and PC that doesn't transfer (Forza, Gears, Halo, Fable), but everything else..

..either make the call you will fund development of Gamepass games (and stem any losses from it) by allowing the same titles to sell at full price broadly, or keep as much exclusive to xbox console as you can, and be prepared to make a severe loss on game development until you do, to gradually build xbox as *the* must have console.

It is all a case of which is more core.. making profit and avoid losses, or building xbox's console market share. My feeling is the former wins, but they'll need a way to grow Gamepass beyond PC, and it is a bad idea to place it on Switch or Playstation (which I firmly believe neither will agree to anyway), so Gamepass ironically is likely to fail without options beyond what is currently available to consumers.

Get it on tv's, and get to market with a much cheaper device. Time for a plug and play xbox streaming dongle packaged with a controller for $149 or less. Leave your competition hundreds of dollars more expensive as an entry to current gen gaming, and Gamepass the only place to play MS Studio games other than at full price.
Get some momentum behind xbox again, and then come out with a handheld to match.

149$ is too much for just a dongle and a controller.
If they want to gamble on streaming, and gamepass via streaming.... they will need to partner with TV brands, so they can avoid the dongle.
Ei. have a TV, own a Xbox controller..... you are now a xbox user, enjoying games via streaming, and gamepass.

Even if older tv models, without the stuff buildt in, the package price would need to be less than 100$, for it to go anywhere.

Also... some game types just arn't as great as playing natively.
Twitch reactiong based games, like fighters, and fps shooters.

Time for xbox to get more 3rd party adventure games :P
Or turn based rpgs, where input delay really doesn't matter.

However, all this is jumping the gun.
Next gen there will still be hardware, even if the rumors of that being 3rd party sellers, selling PC's with a Xbox OS on them,
makeing them semi consoles.

And again... even that could be jumping the gun.
Maybe Phil comes out on monday, and says none of it is going to happend, plans of going 3rd party have been scrapped?

edit:
Just reposting this from Resetera:

"According to Tom Henderson sources inside Xbox, the only ports coming to PS5/NS is Sea of Thieves and Hi-Fi. Xbox was very surprised by the scale the rumors got."


followed up by:



"Let's see, we have:

  • Sea of Thieves and Hi-Fi Rush basically confirmed
  • Employees making the next Halo game confirming it's on Playstation, then removing it from their Linkedin
  • Marketing directors mentioning Playstation games, then later removing it from their Linkedin
  • Marketing materials removing "Xbox" from GamePass, and simply saying "PC and Console"
  • No mention whatsoever of exclusivity for Blade or Indiana Jones
  • A "business update" coming next week, an unprecedented type of announcement

Nope, nothing to see here folks. Phil Spencer himself was extremely surprised at how far the rumor mill had gone." James Sawyer Ford



Theres spin and damage control going on.
So who the hell knows exactly what is going to happend when Phil gives his talk.... However theres currently alot of smoke.

my own take is: 
They could easily come out and publicly squash the rumors, but they haven't.



Last edited by JRPGfan - on 10 February 2024

JRPGfan said:
Gettysburg4 said:

-Snip-

"Let's see, we have:

  • Sea of Thieves and Hi-Fi Rush basically confirmed
  • Employees making the next Halo game confirming it's on Playstation, then removing it from their Linkedin
  • Marketing directors mentioning Playstation games, then later removing it from their Linkedin
  • Marketing materials removing "Xbox" from GamePass, and simply saying "PC and Console"
  • No mention whatsoever of exclusivity for Blade or Indiana Jones
  • A "business update" coming next week, an unprecedented type of announcement
  • Employees making the next Halo game confirming it's on Playstation, then removing it from their Linkedin

I think you're talking about the Halo job posting, I can't remember it being Linkedin and it specifically said.

"Set clear design goals and deliverables, focusing the systems design team on achieving a high-quality, cohesive experience for all players, on all platforms,"

It's a fairly generic posting which doesn't mention PlayStation at all and in the context of the responsibility "Set clear design goals and deliverables, focusing the systems design team on achieving a high-quality, cohesive experience" and then "for all players, on all platforms" It's simply saying this person should ensure parity across all the platforms it is released on.

Here's another one posted last year: Lead Game Designer | Microsoft Careers

Set clear design goals and deliverables, focusing the systems design team on achieving a high-quality, cohesive experience for all players, on all platforms.

Here's one posted 2 years ago: Sandbox Design Lead at Microsoft | WORK180

Set clear design goals and deliverables, focusing the Sandbox design team on achieving a high-quality, cohesive experience for all players, on all platforms.

So this is a nothingburger.

  • Marketing directors mentioning Playstation games, then later removing it from their Linkedin

The person who mentioned PlayStation in his Linkedin was the Director of Game Content in Asia for Microsoft Gaming...But again...Microsoft already releases stuff multiplatform, Call of Duty, Blizzard titles, they'd fall under his responsibility too, so of course he'd mention PlayStation. He likely removed it because he had a bunch of weirdos posting his Linkedin all over the internet and arguing over it

  • No mention whatsoever of exclusivity for Blade or Indiana Jones

Disney confirmed Indiana Jones is exclusive.

  • Marketing materials removing "Xbox" from GamePass, and simply saying "PC and Console"

This was changed last year, all they did was remove the Xbox Logo from the image and moved "Game Pass" to the top in bold, the platforms are still listed at the bottom, Game Pass is still plastered everywhere and they instead with the saved space from removing logos, added in a descriptor of the game. Imo, it looked more like a design change than anything else cause it looks better than the old.

If not even most people at Xbox know, then some graphic designer of Xbox.com ain't going to know either, Lol.

FWIW, I've no doubt a number of titles will be coming multiplatform, like I said, Sea of Thieves and Hi Fi Rush are basically confirmed, I also think Pentiment and Grounded will likely follow, or maybe even Killer Instinct, but A LOT of these recent events have been people MASSIVELY reading into every little thing, like that GameStop post where they called it "Microsoft Game Pass" and everyone freaked out, Lol.

Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 10 February 2024