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Your most anticipated upcoming Xbox RPG in 2025?

The Outer Worlds 2 2 10.53%
 
The Elder Scrolls: Oblivion remaster/remake 6 31.58%
 
Fable 8 42.11%
 
Avowed 3 15.79%
 
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Ryuu96 said:

Sony has teams which help developers, more so than Xbox, they got contracted for Callisto.

Although I'm fairly sure the team that helped Callisto was just a mocap team.

They probably just prioritised PlayStation.

Yeah I'm not a big fan of that tbh. You want marketing rights, then heavily market the game and nothing else. 

It comes off as a type of sabotage for other platforms to prioritize your platform while other platforms suffer for it and it's not even an exclusive in any way. Not to mention, players on other platforms are paying the same amount of money for the game as yours and yet they're getting an inferior product. But whatevs. 

Last edited by G2ThaUNiT - on 02 December 2022

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EspadaGrim said:

Hopefully Sony ends up with nothing it’s clear that they just want the deal blocked, just want this deal done with already. 

Well, they've outright said it, so we know their intentions at least

If Sony denies the deal, it doesn't really matter if regulators accept it, Sony not bitching may mean a smoother deal but it's not a guarantee, it has always been what regulators deem reasonable, and it seems that regulators do what concessions in some form one way or another, only difference is Microsoft makes the deal with regulators instead of Sony.

Would be hilarious though if FTC/EC/CMA were just like "actually, we don't need concessions, it's fine" Lol. But Microsoft is already submitting concessions to regulatory bodies so it's too late, I think in some regulatory bodies, they don't really care about Sony as much as they do having a perceived win against big tech.





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gtotheunit91 said:
Ryuu96 said:

Sony has teams which help developers, more so than Xbox, they got contracted for Callisto.

Although I'm fairly sure the team that helped Callisto was just a mocap team.

They probably just prioritised PlayStation.

Yeah I'm not a big fan of that tbh. You want marketing rights, then heavily market the game and nothing else. 

It comes off as a type of sabotage for other platforms to prioritize your platform while other platforms suffer for it and it's not even an exclusive in any way and other platform players are paying the same amount for the game as yours and yet they're getting an inferior product. But whatevs. 

Depends, I think. If the marketing deal forced them to prioritise PlayStation (nothing to suggest it did though), then it would be on Sony but if it didn't then the blame is more on Striking Distance Studios if they chose to prioritise PlayStation to the detriment of Xbox/PC.

Sony's Visual Arts Studio is just an assistance studio and a mocap one at that, theoretically anyone could hire it out, money is money at the end of the day, Microsoft could easily do the same, but they don't have a network as big as Sony yet, they don't have the amount of support studios that Sony does.

If this is a case of Sony providing assistance to developers to get the best out of PlayStation, it's something that Microsoft should be doing more of rather than Sony should stop doing it, Imho. Microsoft could buy up a few more support studios for their own teams and in the quiet periods contract them out to developers, as Sony does.

Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 02 December 2022

Ryuu96 said:
gtotheunit91 said:

Yeah I'm not a big fan of that tbh. You want marketing rights, then heavily market the game and nothing else. 

It comes off as a type of sabotage for other platforms to prioritize your platform while other platforms suffer for it and it's not even an exclusive in any way and other platform players are paying the same amount for the game as yours and yet they're getting an inferior product. But whatevs. 

Depends, I think. If the marketing deal forced them to prioritise PlayStation (nothing to suggest it did though), then it would be on Sony but if it didn't then the blame is more on Striking Distance Studios if they chose to prioritise PlayStation to the detriment of Xbox/PC.

Sony's Visual Arts Studio is just an assistance studio and a mocap one at that, theoretically anyone could hire it out, money is money at the end of the day, Microsoft could easily do the same, but they don't have a network as big as Sony yet, they don't have the amount of support studios that Sony does.

If this is a case of Sony providing assistance to developers to get the best out of PlayStation, it's something that Microsoft should be doing more of rather than Sony should stop doing it, Imho. Microsoft could buy up a few more support studios for their own teams and in the quiet periods contract them out to developers, as Sony does.

Yeah, but that's only for the console platform holders. PC gets the short end of the stick, which it clearly did in this case, because PC is such a broad platform that there are no support studios because there is no single platform holder. 

I do see what you mean though in how much of a support system Sony has in place for developers. Just the way it is I guess.



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I'll still pick it up, probably next year when it's cheaper and patched.



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Ryuu96 said:
EspadaGrim said:

Hopefully Sony ends up with nothing it’s clear that they just want the deal blocked, just want this deal done with already. 

Well, they've outright said it, so we know their intentions at least

If Sony denies the deal, it doesn't really matter if regulators accept it, Sony not bitching may mean a smoother deal but it's not a guarantee, it has always been what regulators deem reasonable, and it seems that regulators do what concessions in some form one way or another, only difference is Microsoft makes the deal with regulators instead of Sony.

Would be hilarious though if FTC/EC/CMA were just like "actually, we don't need concessions, it's fine" Lol. But Microsoft is already submitting concessions to regulatory bodies so it's too late, I think in some regulatory bodies, they don't really care about Sony as much as they do having a perceived win against big tech.

Yeh I already know that MS Is offering the 10 year deal as concessions to the FTC/CMA/EC so if they think that’s enough then Sony gets the deal either way.

MS should make a fuss about Sony’s cross play policy so that BS can end, imagine how much money they are losing by paying them royalties/fees for cross play.



Well, one thing for sure is that it does not support Smart Delivery... And it is really 2 differents versions for the Series X/S and Xbox One...
I did not see that since a while, so yah dev did not really put a lot of effort for the Xbox side for sure.



EspadaGrim said:
Ryuu96 said:

Well, they've outright said it, so we know their intentions at least

If Sony denies the deal, it doesn't really matter if regulators accept it, Sony not bitching may mean a smoother deal but it's not a guarantee, it has always been what regulators deem reasonable, and it seems that regulators do what concessions in some form one way or another, only difference is Microsoft makes the deal with regulators instead of Sony.

Would be hilarious though if FTC/EC/CMA were just like "actually, we don't need concessions, it's fine" Lol. But Microsoft is already submitting concessions to regulatory bodies so it's too late, I think in some regulatory bodies, they don't really care about Sony as much as they do having a perceived win against big tech.

Yeh I already know that MS Is offering the 10 year deal as concessions to the FTC/CMA/EC so if they think that’s enough then Sony gets the deal either way.

MS should make a fuss about Sony’s cross play policy so that BS can end, imagine how much money they are losing by paying them royalties/fees for cross play.

Seriously!!!! I'm shocked that there wasn't more of an uproar when that bomb dropped during the Apple vs Epic trial! 



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