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Forums - Sales - Switch Sales Top 113M, PS4 Tops 117M - Worldwide Hardware Estimates for Sep 11-17

eva01beserk said:
Qwark said:

Well at least the PS4 will keep its software record for a while. So that's nice before the Switch reaper will knock on its door.

What's their software numbers so far?

PS4 crossed 1.5 billion including digital only games, now they report PS4+PS5 so we likely won't know the PS4's final number.

Switch is at 863.59mil as of June 30th 2022 not including digital only games.



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Kakadu18 said:
eva01beserk said:

What's their software numbers so far?

PS4 crossed 1.5 billion including digital only games, now they report PS4+PS5 so we likely won't know the PS4's final number.

Switch is at 863.59mil as of June 30th 2022 not including digital only games.

Almost double? Danm. I don't see switch passing that. That's the thing about first and third party support. First party sells hardware but third party makes the money.



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eva01beserk said:
Kakadu18 said:

PS4 crossed 1.5 billion including digital only games, now they report PS4+PS5 so we likely won't know the PS4's final number.

Switch is at 863.59mil as of June 30th 2022 not including digital only games.

Almost double? Danm. I don't see switch passing that. That's the thing about first and third party support. First party sells hardware but third party makes the money.

Switch games are more expensive. Keep that in mind



eva01beserk said:
Kakadu18 said:

PS4 crossed 1.5 billion including digital only games, now they report PS4+PS5 so we likely won't know the PS4's final number.

Switch is at 863.59mil as of June 30th 2022 not including digital only games.

Almost double? Danm. I don't see switch passing that. That's the thing about first and third party support. First party sells hardware but third party makes the money.

Digital only games, that includes most indies I think have a bigger share on the Switch than they have on PS. I forgot what the exact share was on PS, but I remember it to not be very big.



eva01beserk said:
Kakadu18 said:

PS4 crossed 1.5 billion including digital only games, now they report PS4+PS5 so we likely won't know the PS4's final number.

Switch is at 863.59mil as of June 30th 2022 not including digital only games.

Almost double? Danm. I don't see switch passing that. That's the thing about first and third party support. First party sells hardware but third party makes the money.

I mean that's not including digital-only games. So Switch is a decent amount higher than that number. So it's not anywhere near double.

And Switch is probably in its most prolific software years at this point, while it is well over 100m and is still very much in the prime of its life. Expect those software sales to leap up by hundreds of millions the next couple years. Most likely Switch software sales will surpass PS4 sales. Switch has a couple years left to sell a ton of software, and a couple years after that post-life to sell a bit more.



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Kakadu18 said:
eva01beserk said:

Almost double? Danm. I don't see switch passing that. That's the thing about first and third party support. First party sells hardware but third party makes the money.

Digital only games, that includes most indies I think have a bigger share on the Switch than they have on PS. I forgot what the exact share was on PS, but I remember it to not be very big.

Yea I miss read that it's not including digital.

So we don't know what switch is at?



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Kakadu18 said:
eva01beserk said:

What's their software numbers so far?

PS4 crossed 1.5 billion including digital only games, now they report PS4+PS5 so we likely won't know the PS4's final number.

Switch is at 863.59mil as of June 30th 2022 not including digital only games.

Do u have the source that it doesn't include digital only games?



Slownenberg said:
eva01beserk said:

Almost double? Danm. I don't see switch passing that. That's the thing about first and third party support. First party sells hardware but third party makes the money.

I mean that's not including digital-only games. So Switch is a decent amount higher than that number. So it's not anywhere near double.

And Switch is probably in its most prolific software years at this point, while it is well over 100m and is still very much in the prime of its life. Expect those software sales to leap up by hundreds of millions the next couple years. Most likely Switch software sales will surpass PS4 sales. Switch has a couple years left to sell a ton of software, and a couple years after that post-life to sell a bit more.

Interesting, how much software do you think switch will sell each year in 2022 to 2025? I have organised official shipments into calendar years (below). Personally i think 2022 will be around 225 to 230 million and from 2023 software will decline but at what rate i do not know, it could have a strong tail or it could fall off a cliff.

Last edited by ShadowLink93 - on 27 September 2022

Xbox Series X|S will pass the 17 million mark on the next update.



Shatts said:
Kakadu18 said:

PS4 crossed 1.5 billion including digital only games, now they report PS4+PS5 so we likely won't know the PS4's final number.

Switch is at 863.59mil as of June 30th 2022 not including digital only games.

Do u have the source that it doesn't include digital only games?

I think they say that somewhere in their IR material. Up until 2019 Sony had also not been counting digital only games.

The DS and Wii software totals that they reported also don't include DSi Ware and Wii Ware.