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Pemalite on 03 September 2022
numberwang said:
Pemalite said:

The Steam Decks hardware absolutely decimates the 7 year old Tegra chip in every single way.

As expected.

Weight, heat and battery life suck on x86.

It might get a second life as a cheap portable mini pc in the future.

Not really. You can reduce the Steamdecks refresh rate, clockrate, framerate, voltage and obtain:

1) Still better performance than the Switch.
2) Better battery life than the Switch.

You can limit the Steam Decks power to 3w (Much lower than the Switch, plus Steamdeck has a 20-25% larger battery) and get 5+ hours of Portal 2.

Plus... Unlike the Switch, you can also get 4+ hours of GTA 5. One of the best selling games of all time.

You can argue that x86 is CISC and ARM is RISC... But both have basically converged at this point, it all comes down to architecture and design goals... AMD's Ryzen APU's can hit some extremely low TDP's and beat the pants off Tegra in every single way... That includes weight, heat and battery.



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Chrkeller on 03 September 2022
IcaroRibeiro said:
Chrkeller said:

Didn't watch the video nor do plan too. Software matters, not hardware.

Steam Deck have Steam library (and any PC store as well). It's better than any console in terms of software 

In your opinion.  I'll personally take Mario, metroid and zelda over PC games.  Nintendo still, imho, has the best software in the industry.



sethnintendo on 03 September 2022

How much has steam deck sold? 1 million? It's a good product but not many give a shit about it because you know what handhelds were never defined by graphics.



Leynos on 03 September 2022
Conina said:
Leynos said:

Name a gaming handheld that outsold a Nintendo handheld and that's the answer.

PSP outsold 3DS.

Not the same generation. PSP was done when 3DS came out.



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sethnintendo on 03 September 2022
Pemalite said:
numberwang said:

Weight, heat and battery life suck on x86.

It might get a second life as a cheap portable mini pc in the future.

Not really. You can reduce the Steamdecks refresh rate, clockrate, framerate, voltage and obtain:

1) Still better performance than the Switch.
2) Better battery life than the Switch.

You can limit the Steam Decks power to 3w (Much lower than the Switch, plus Steamdeck has a 20-25% larger battery) and get 5+ hours of Portal 2.

Plus... Unlike the Switch, you can also get 4+ hours of GTA 5. One of the best selling games of all time.

You can argue that x86 is CISC and ARM is RISC... But both have basically converged at this point, it all comes down to architecture and design goals... AMD's Ryzen APU's can hit some extremely low TDP's and beat the pants off Tegra in every single way... That includes weight, heat and battery.

Because most people want to play gta5 on handheld for 4-5 hours.  Yea I'm not seeing it.



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Kakadu18 on 03 September 2022
Pemalite said:
numberwang said:

Weight, heat and battery life suck on x86.

It might get a second life as a cheap portable mini pc in the future.

Not really. You can reduce the Steamdecks refresh rate, clockrate, framerate, voltage and obtain:

1) Still better performance than the Switch.
2) Better battery life than the Switch.

You can limit the Steam Decks power to 3w (Much lower than the Switch, plus Steamdeck has a 20-25% larger battery) and get 5+ hours of Portal 2.

Plus... Unlike the Switch, you can also get 4+ hours of GTA 5. One of the best selling games of all time.

You can argue that x86 is CISC and ARM is RISC... But both have basically converged at this point, it all comes down to architecture and design goals... AMD's Ryzen APU's can hit some extremely low TDP's and beat the pants off Tegra in every single way... That includes weight, heat and battery.

How many hours of Portal 2 do you get on the Switch?

And isn't the appeal of the Steam Deck appart from emulation being able to play games in handheld that can't run on Switch? You know, demanding games, where the Steam Deck's battery runs out after just two or so hours.



Conina on 03 September 2022
Leynos said:
Conina said:

PSP outsold 3DS.

Not the same generation. PSP was done when 3DS came out.

I know that they aren't the same generation. But you asked to name ANY non-Nintendo handheld which outsold a Nintendo handheld.



sethnintendo on 03 September 2022
Conina said:
Leynos said:

Not the same generation. PSP was done when 3DS came out.

I know that they aren't the same generation. But you asked to name ANY non-Nintendo handheld which outsold a Nintendo handheld.

That was before smartphones ruined fuckin everything.



sethnintendo on 03 September 2022
Kyuu said:
sethnintendo said:

How much has steam deck sold? 1 million? It's a good product but not many give a shit about it because you know what handhelds were never defined by graphics.

SteamDeck will have the superior library by a wide margin when all is said and done. Sales are irrelevant because it's a PC, and PC is a family of systems sharing the same library. This is nothing like the traditional dedicated handhelds that are required to sell several million units to ensure 3rd parties supporting them to some extent.

How would you know that not many give a shit about it? Valve is selling all they can produce, and that hype around is clearly on the rise and for very good reasons.

I don't think it'll be a threat to the Switch, because unlike the Switch, it has alternatives.... These alternatives are traditional PC's, Playstation and Xbox which in my opinion have more in common with it (the actual game libraries) than a Switch does (portability). I doubt Valve is capable of or even intends to produce several dozen million of them anyways.

SteamDeck is a whole different game from the old handhelds, and it's crazy that you guys can't see why. It's an incredible device right off the bat, and people are taking notice of this.

It's not a PC it's a handheld.  I thought the steam library was superior from the get go.   Look I have 300+ games on my steam library but I'm not dying to get a steam deck.  Valve has shit support for their past hardware and maybe they'll actually try this time?  Remember the steam machines?  Yea most don't



Conina on 03 September 2022
Kakadu18 said:

How many hours of Portal 2 do you get on the Switch?

And isn't the appeal of the Steam Deck appart from emulation being able to play games in handheld that can't run on Switch? You know, demanding games, where the Steam Deck's battery runs out after just two or so hours.

Why don't you tell us how many hours of Portal 2 you get on the Switch?

The appeal of the Steam deck is to play more demanding AND less demanding games AND more demanding games in less demanding settings.

Of course you can choose very high settings for The Witcher 3, which will result in less battery life than on Switch. But you can also run the game in medium settings with better battery life than on Switch and stilll much better quality than on Switch.

On the other end of the scale you can play games like "The Great Ace Attorney" with 3 watts TDP and better battery life than on Switch... same resolution, but better antialiasing.

Or a lot of older AAA games with maxed setting and only 3 - 9 watts which aren't available for Switch (f. e. the 7th gen Tomb Raider games, MGS 5, Titanfall 2, Faalout 3 / New Vegas...).