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Forums - Nintendo - Kotaku Gives New York Times VGChartz Story Creedence

Yesterday, a New York Times article came to light, citing VGchartz and Michael Patcher as sources, and saying that nobody buys games for the Wii, and quoting ignorant facts like the dropoff rate for Brawl, and other such nonsense.

Well, once again, ignorance rears its ugly head, as a Kotaku news article has surfaced, not only presenting the story, but also leaving the VGChartz reference out(again, to lend credibility to as mass of an audience as possible, most of whom don't trust VGChartz), mentioning the Patcher quote, and attempting to add an overall sense of validity to what is an obviously bogus story:

 

http://kotaku.com/382123/wii-owners-dont-buy-games

 

According to a well-argued piece by the New York Times, Wii owners don't buy games. They look at the issue from a variety of angles, including the facts (Wii owners buy one game less per year than their 360/PS3 counterparts), the analysts (Michael Pachter explains this represents a "broadening of the demographic") and the consequences (Super Smash Bros. Brawl sales dropped 90% over the first four weeks, forcing companies like Walmart to turn to bundling the game).

All in all, it's a good thing that Nintendo makes loads of cash on the Wii, Wii controllers and accessories for Wii controllers. Because even their traditional franchises are failing to inspire many of those who purchased Wiis in the first place.

By Mark Wilson

 

It's been no secret that some Kotaku posters strongly dislike the Wii, but this is going a step to far. Insinuating that 1st party Nintendo games sell poorly to the userbase of the Wii. The commentator here either is ignorant of the facts, which makes the site Kotaku, usually the first name in immediate gaming news, totally unreliable as an editorial, or he has a biased against the Wii, and is exploiting his standing as a game journalist to hurt the Wii in the public arena.

 

Once again, Wii detractors resort to underhanded tactics, in an attempt to marginalize its success, and create a PR disaster in the main stream media. No counter arguments are raised, and bandwagon jumpers abound, to use this old, tired ammo against the system.

Mainstream casual press translating to biased entheusiast media propoganda is the worst kind of insult to gamers. It assumes ignorance and misinformation abounds in the underground internet fanbase, as well as the fact that its playing directly to Wii-Hating fanboys. Why must Wii owners feel the need to constantly defend and justify their favorite system in the face of so much diversity and struggle against the change the Wii has brought to the industry.

The fact is, Nintendo has already proven Mark Wilson, and The New York Time wrong at every turn. The only problem is, it takes time for popular perception to catch up to reality. In the meantime, negligence and blatant falsehoods in news articles on the internet seem to be the norm when fanboys are writing your daily commentary.



I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

NO NO, NO NO NO.

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"failing to inspire"

What BS

SMG was one of the best games ever!



All hail the KING, Andrespetmonkey

Why should we need to justify and defend it? When we leave the console race with their asses whooped and 60% of the market, the truth will speak itself. ;)



Kimi wa ne tashika ni ano toki watashi no soba ni ita

Itsudatte itsudatte itsudatte

Sugu yoko de waratteita

Nakushitemo torimodosu kimi wo

I will never leave you

When he says "failing to inspire" in that context he means, "Nintendo first party games don't sell well on the Wii."

Which is obviously one of the dumbest, most ignorant, and/or biased comments I've ever heard anyone have the audacity to insinuate on the Internet.



I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

NO NO, NO NO NO.

Guys, in 2.5 years, when we are the biggest video game forum in the world, we will see wh has the last laugh!

POWER TO THE CHARTZ!



Kimi wa ne tashika ni ano toki watashi no soba ni ita

Itsudatte itsudatte itsudatte

Sugu yoko de waratteita

Nakushitemo torimodosu kimi wo

I will never leave you

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dtewi said:
Why should we need to justify and defend it? When we leave the console race with their asses whooped and 60% of the market, the truth will speak itself. ;)

We don't need to, but when fallacies this huge appear on an accredited news site, which doesnt' have the excuse of not knowing anything about the industry, it's inexcusable. Kotaku has reported on many stories of how the Wii's 1st party games are selling well.

 

In fact, sourcing NPD's American numbers over the life of the console is simple cherrypicking, and anyone who calls themselves a journalist or a commentator should know as much. However, this little flamebait by the Kotaku guy goes beyond cherrypicking, to a convinient and provable lie with no other purpose than to degrade the Wii.

 

Since when does Kotaku get their gaming news from a casual non-gamer and then back it up as valid when the author obviously knows better. 



I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

NO NO, NO NO NO.

Even Nintendo-haters should be upset over this. It's simply stupid to print lies in a news article. You're supposed to be informing with commentary, not promoting an agenda.



I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

NO NO, NO NO NO.

Waste of bandwidth if you ask me, then again; look at the massive mudslinging campaign the associated press had at the PS3 up until now (some are still at it too).
I've learned not to trust most things I read, and I most often check out the facts in such stories before I make up my mind about it.
Sadly, though, not many people do check facts and fall for what the media tell them (for some reason, many seem to believe that the internet is more reliable than other media is such instances, when in reality it seems to be the other way), I mean; they're proffessionals right?.
Doesn't seem to matter much sometimes, I don't believe a gaming reporter more than I believe most of the posters in here (in fact; I find it almost reverse at that).



Doesn't surprise me. It doesn't bother me either, but you have to realize the audience they are catering to.

The NYT's writer OTOH, he doesn't deserve the title of journalist. I would have written him a response, but they don't have his contact information in the article.



Show me a game who's sales don't drop off ~90 percent after several weeks. That's a trend common to all genres and platforms, and even has parallels in the movie business. Just because Pirates of the Caribbean, (or any big name, big budget movie) didn't earn several hundred million dollars in its fourth week doesn't mean it didn't make lots of cashy money.