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KManX89 said:

I've jumped to 4K ever since I got my OLED in preparation for the PS5 (which I now have), and I've double dipped on many movies I own on DVD. However, I won't 4K double dip if I already own them on blu-ray. It's not THAT big of a difference to justify rebuying them. DVD to 4K, though? It's a night and day difference.

Well yeah, would be about the same as DVD to Blu-ray. But if the price isn't all that much higher, might as well go for the one with less compression. That's one benefit 4K blu-ray still has with older movies, higher bandwidth, less compression artifacts, and full 1080p color. (Both 4k Blu-ray and 1080p Blu-ray use 4:2:0 chroma subsampling, meaning color values are only sampled on every other line and every other pixel. Blu-ray has 540p color resolution while 4K blu-ray 1080p color) Of course the main thing you see better is the film grain!

@Spike0503 I hope physical stays around since it's still the only place where you get extras like behind the scenes footage and director's commentaries. Yet I don't see any 8K physical format coming anymore. I doubt 8K will catch on anyway, my eye sight tops out at 1440p at a comfortable viewing distance. 4K still has benefits, yet I already need to walk up to the screen to see the difference clearly.

For digital, 8K is rather pointless as well. Let digital first match 4K blu-ray's 128 mbps bandwidth. Better motion resolution makes for a more consistent quality picture. Even at 128 mbps, pausing a 4K blu-ray in a busy scene still reveals plenty compression artifacts. Digital cinema goes up to 250 mbps. Might be higher now, that was the max for 2K movies still using mpeg2.



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@SegaHeart Great stuff! I'm a huge Bond fan so I would love to get some of those. I saw in Amazon that they have this:



Which is pretty convenient for me since he's my favorite Bond. Aside from his collection, there are a couple of Blu-ray collections containing everything and some collections divided by actor. I think the only ones in 4k seem to be the Craig movies which is a shame. If I were to buy them maybe I'd buy Craig's 4k + Brosnan and Connery in standard blu-ray. It'd be great if they release another complete set but in 4k though.



I just started watching the Star Trek TOS full series collection on blu-ray. Nice to have the whole series in one box with both the remastered and original sfx. They messed up the sound mix though, at least in the first episode. Dialog is very very quiet, beware when switching back to tv after turning up the volume haha.

It also doesn't start with the original pilot episode with Captain Pike. Maybe it's in extras. The menu is as always confusing for the sake of being artsy. Looks great anyway, amazing how good a 60s tv show can still look.



I just started watching the Star Trek TOS full series collection on blu-ray. Nice to have the whole series in one box with both the remastered and original sfx. They messed up the sound mix though, at least in the first episode. Dialog is very very quiet, beware when switching back to tv after turning up the volume haha. Ah the original mono soundtrack is better leveled, doesn't make the intro and credits blast out way too loud. 7.1 HD MA audio remaster fail.

It also doesn't start with the original pilot episode with Captain Pike. Maybe it's in extras. The menu is as always confusing for the sake of being artsy. Looks great anyway, amazing how good a 60s tv show can still look.



SvennoJ said:
sethnintendo said:

Those discs suck and get scratched. Early CD players used to destroy disc in one or two playings. What eventually happened was ripping. People ripped cds to computer to preserve their purchase. Best format to listen to your own collection these days? USB drive

Out of all the CDs I've bought since the 90s and still buy, only one has a scratch that makes the player skip in that spot. But I've seen how people treat their CDs so it doesn't surprise me. I've never had a CD player destroy a disc. (I have had memory cards and USB drives that stopped working)

People ripped cds to computer to share them... I still use CDs in the car, never any issues, sounds great. At home I prefer blu-ray for music, DTS HD MA 7.1 sounds much better than any streaming. Although I often just put the radio on, good old FM stereo. I never got on with mp3s and USB drives. I can't see from the outside what's on a USB stick... Plus my Amp keeps crashing when connected to an iPod, useless.

Anyway, I'm glad the music I like is still released on CD. Much easier to keep track of.

Did you have cd boom box player in the 90s?   Like this... Those chewed up and ate cds in short time.   Maybe I just had a shit brand one back in day.   Once I got a Sony good one in late 90s it didn't scratch disc but the early cheap ones sucked.   Don't get me started on not treating disc right.   Hell even my GameCube games that I'd keep in case but play constantly like Mario kart double dash are scratched to shit but still play.   Disc suck.   USB or cartridges are far superior.



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sethnintendo said:

Did you have cd boom box player in the 90s?   Like this... Those chewed up and ate cds in short time.   Maybe I just had a shit brand one back in day.   Once I got a Sony good one in late 90s it didn't scratch disc but the early cheap ones sucked.   Don't get me started on not treating disc right.   Hell even my GameCube games that I'd keep in case but play constantly like Mario kart double dash are scratched to shit but still play.   Disc suck.   USB or cartridges are far superior.

I never used CDs in those, they already chewed up cassette tapes on a regular bases. Those things are only good for radio.

Anyway I've lost far more from faulty memory cards, USB sticks, HDDs etc than from CDs. Floppy discs though, ouch. I've had plenty disc read errors on consoles, but it was always the disc drive, not the disc. From all the discs I've bought over the decades I have one blu-ray with a repeatable scratch, one music CD and one PS2 game. HDD failures at least 10, memory card failures and USB stick failures far outweigh any disc failures. However cartridges have held out well. My GBA game cartridges all still work and even the box of Intellivision cartridges my wife bought at a garage sale all still work.



SvennoJ said:
sethnintendo said:

Did you have cd boom box player in the 90s?   Like this... Those chewed up and ate cds in short time.   Maybe I just had a shit brand one back in day.   Once I got a Sony good one in late 90s it didn't scratch disc but the early cheap ones sucked.   Don't get me started on not treating disc right.   Hell even my GameCube games that I'd keep in case but play constantly like Mario kart double dash are scratched to shit but still play.   Disc suck.   USB or cartridges are far superior.

I never used CDs in those, they already chewed up cassette tapes on a regular bases. Those things are only good for radio.

Anyway I've lost far more from faulty memory cards, USB sticks, HDDs etc than from CDs. Floppy discs though, ouch. I've had plenty disc read errors on consoles, but it was always the disc drive, not the disc. From all the discs I've bought over the decades I have one blu-ray with a repeatable scratch, one music CD and one PS2 game. HDD failures at least 10, memory card failures and USB stick failures far outweigh any disc failures. However cartridges have held out well. My GBA game cartridges all still work and even the box of Intellivision cartridges my wife bought at a garage sale all still work.

I've had more CDs and DVDs scratched or stolen then lost USB drives.  I keep everything on my main computer and transfer them to USB drives.  Unless someone walks out of my house with my main computer or extra laying around USB drives with my collection on it then I still have my music library.  I understand it though when comes to video games I prefer physical.  I have a few games worth 100+ each now which ate usually rare gems that have cult following like fire emblem early games and rare N64 games.  Some people love vinyl because apparently sound is better.  Early disc just were eventually a negative thing for me even though bought CDs up until 2000s or so.  To each their own.