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CaptainExplosion said:
Skeeuk said:

this war needednt have started if there was no supression of russian ukranians. but its done now i hope it doesnt go on for too much longer. i hope the azov nazis get obliterated

Clearly you haven't seen what Nazis Putin and the Russian troops have been the past 8 years.

yes they have been supporting thier own cultural people in the east who have been living with shelling for nearly 8 years, id go and have a look at the official UN figures on whats gone on there.

the nazis even have their own military in Ukraine care to look up azov brigades and how they have people in the government?



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CaptainExplosion said:

Will someone out there PLEASE just kill Putin already? -_-

You’ve been bouncing around this thread screeching about wanting assassinations and an escalation of violence. Why don’t you practice what you preach and satisfy your blood-thirst? Volunteer to fight against Russia instead of sitting on the sidelines and demanding everyone else do it.



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Zkuq said:
SecondWar said:

I know Russia has threatened Finland about attempting to join Nato will see a Russian military reaction. Thing is though, unlike Ukraine, Finland is an EU member. Whilst the EU doesn’t have an explicit defensive pact in its treaties like Nato’s article 5 it seems incredibly unlikely that the EU wouldn’t itself respond to an attack on a member state with its own military action.

I'm pretty sure it's more along the lines of Finland joining NATO would have political and military consequences, to which Russia would have to reach. Obviously Finland joining NATO would have political and military consequences since NATO is kind of a political and military organization, but that part's true regardless of Russia. I believe Russia has stated only that it would react, somehow, to Finland joining NATO. Of course the choice of words is probably not accidental, and it's probably meant to sound somewhat threatening - but not quite as threatening as directly threatening with a military reaction.

It's a fine line Russia has to walk here to try to minimize the likelyhood of Finland joining NATO, because they can't just allow Finland to join NATO like it's no big deal to them, but at the same time, they probably don't want to provoke Finland into more eagerly joining NATO (well, at least more than they are already doing).

Thing is though if they did want to respond militarily, they’d have to do it before Finland joined Nato otherwise it would trigger Nato’s article 5. That’s what they’ve dine with Ukraine. My point is it would still likely trigger an EU response.



Skeeuk said:
CaptainExplosion said:

Clearly you haven't seen what Nazis Putin and the Russian troops have been the past 8 years.

yes they have been supporting thier own cultural people in the east who have been living with shelling for nearly 8 years, id go and have a look at the official UN figures on whats gone on there.

the nazis even have their own military in Ukraine care to look up azov brigades and how they have people in the government?

You know there is a Russian neo-Nazi group - Russian National Unity - that has been active in Donbas since 2014.



Skeeuk said:
CaptainExplosion said:

Clearly you haven't seen what Nazis Putin and the Russian troops have been the past 8 years.

yes they have been supporting thier own cultural people in the east who have been living with shelling for nearly 8 years, id go and have a look at the official UN figures on whats gone on there.

the nazis even have their own military in Ukraine care to look up azov brigades and how they have people in the government?

It's always astonishing to see people like you. Millions of people had to flee the last weeks. Millions lose their homes and everything. Many even their life. Most of them are ironically those from the eastern cities who are supposed to be victims of Ukraine's  "Nazi regime" but until Russia started to attack Ukraine, they weren't refugees, didn't lose their homes and could live in Ukraine. 

Until today, most civilians whose existence got destroyed by Putin's troops are the ones who were supposed to be freed by them.

Are there Nazis in Ukraine? Yes, obviously. Like in every country on this planet Russia included. Are there some Russians living in Ukraine who probably had some hard times? Yes, for sure. 

But that Putin is using guys who have Nazi SS tattoos to "free" Ukraine and people like you believe that guy even if you know that there are people with Nazi Tattoos working for Putin is so unbelievable stupid. 

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CaptainExplosion said:

I hope Putin and even more Russian troops are stomped out like the cockroaches they are. Even if that means much of a major Russian city is devastated in the process. Call it karma.

Another one. I’ll repeat. Instead of posting all this blood-thirsty jingoistic hypocrisy, why don’t you go volunteer for Ukraine yourself?



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Well cost and inflation seem to be going through the roof in Russia at the moment so seems like an easy way to cinserve cash rather than reprinting menus - especially if, as is likely, they have to raise prices again soon. Also, I doubt those wines are going to remain on the menu for much longer.

Ryuu96 said:

 



CaptainExplosion said:
Jumpin said:

Another one. I’ll repeat. Instead of posting all this blood-thirsty jingoistic hypocrisy, why don’t you go volunteer for Ukraine yourself?

Because I'm not a soldier nor will I ever be a soldier.

So, you’re a coward on top of being a blood-thirsty jingoistic hypocrite. You have no problem demanding others to join the military, to commit atrocities like destroying cities, assassinating politicians, and the mass murder of the elderly, women, and children.



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Jumpin said:
CaptainExplosion said:

Because I'm not a soldier nor will I ever be a soldier.

So, you’re a coward on top of being a blood-thirsty jingoistic hypocrite. You have no problem demanding others to join the military, to commit atrocities like destroying cities, assassinating politicians, and the mass murder of the elderly, women, and children.

He hasn’t said the majority of the stuff you are accusing him of - assassinating Putin, ok he said that but none of the other stuff.

Also, I don’t think you understand what jingoistic or hypocrisy mean because his statements don’t fit those definitions. Neither do coward or blood-thirsty fit either.



KiigelHeart said:
SanAndreasX said:

They clearly weren't prepared for anything but the bare minimum of resistance from Ukraine, and when they found out the Ukrainians were actually willing to fight back, things started going downhill for Russia and Putin. We've been trying to be cautious in our optimism that maybe Putin is holding back, but it's becoming increasingly evident that he's in over his head. He was definitely in Beijing for more than just watching the Russian Olympic Committee's hockey team. He's also recruiting for "volunteers" (mercenaries) in the Middle East and Africa.

Not disputing anything you said, Putin sure seems to be in over his head. But I still find it unlikely the world's 2nd strongest military power would be asking for military aid after two weeks of warfare. Recruiting mercenaries I can understand, morale of his own troops could be very low and using military reserves might be problematic as it's still "a special operation" or some bullshit. If he arms 500,000 people for example they might march towards Moscow instead of Kyiv.

Russia seems to be having some serious logistics problems here. Logistics are what hamstrings invasions and limit projections of power more than anything else. Troops must be fed and watered, equipment needs fuel and maintenance, and God knows how well Russia has been doing with maintenance of equipment that may be God only knows how old. All of that costs money and requires coordination. That seems to be one of Putin's biggest problems here. Russia wasn't exactly a wealthy nation to begin with, despite Putin himself possibly being the single wealthiest person on Earth. He doesn't want to spend money out of his pocket if he can avoid it.

Much as I'm rooting for Ukraine to win against tough odds, I didn't think Russia would do as poorly as it has. Perhaps the Russian army is nothing but a paper bear. I am not saying that to minimize the death and destruction the Russian army is inflicting on the people of Ukraine.