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Latest King & Generals video on the invasion of Ukraine:



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Pemalite said:

Trump and the USA are such spineless cowards when it comes to Russia.

I feel for Ukraine and it's citizens, interested to see how a "vote" for the people turns out in regards to lost territory... And whether the USA would back the people or continue to turn their back on those being murdered in this invasion.

The USA wants to play a different role on the world stage. That is their rightful choice. It's a shame other countries can't seem to find that out. USA is no longer interested in a democratic world, it sees foreign affairs solely as a means for short term profits. It's about time the remaining free world sees that and acts accordingly, instead of hoping the US goes back to its old ways.

In my eyes Europe is much more of a spineless (incompetent) coward than USA. They basically accepted Russia to invade Ukraine. They should have sent their best day one. Not there third best equipment day one thousand, after everything from the 50/70 was donated.

The majority of Americans voted for him and Americans aren't suddenly going to think, we want to go back to Biden/Obama era. Nor should the world expect that and even if the USA goes back to those policies we now know that those are very temporarily.

Last edited by Qwark - on 14 December 2025

Please excuse my (probally) poor grammar

Qwark said:
Pemalite said:

Trump and the USA are such spineless cowards when it comes to Russia.

I feel for Ukraine and it's citizens, interested to see how a "vote" for the people turns out in regards to lost territory... And whether the USA would back the people or continue to turn their back on those being murdered in this invasion.

The USA wants to play a different role on the world stage. That is their rightful choice. It's a shame other countries can't seem to find that out. USA is no longer interested in a democratic world, it sees foreign affairs solely as a means for short term profits. It's about time the remaining free world sees that and acts accordingly, instead of hoping the US goes back to its old ways.

In my eyes Europe is much more of a spineless (incompetent) coward than USA. They basically accepted Russia to invade Ukraine. They should have sent their best day one. Not there third best equipment day one thousand, after everything from the 50/70 was donated.

The majority of Americans voted for him and Americans aren't suddenly going to think, we want to go back to Biden/Obama era. Nor should the world expect that and even if the USA goes back to those policies we now know that those are very temporarily.

Thing is there’s a practicality to that that is often overlooked.

lets say in your stockpile you have three years of supplies for what Ukraine needs. The best is the most recently produce, within the last 5 years. Then the ok stuff, produce between 5 and 20 years ago. The bad which was produced 20+ years ago and is about to expire.

If you send the best first then the ok stuff, when you come back in 2 year the bad stuff can no longer be used so you wasted a years worth of equipment. Hence whilst it may not sound great but it makes sense to use the bad stuff first as it helps you keep going for longer,.



Qwark said:
Pemalite said:

Trump and the USA are such spineless cowards when it comes to Russia.

I feel for Ukraine and it's citizens, interested to see how a "vote" for the people turns out in regards to lost territory... And whether the USA would back the people or continue to turn their back on those being murdered in this invasion.

The USA wants to play a different role on the world stage. That is their rightful choice. It's a shame other countries can't seem to find that out. USA is no longer interested in a democratic world, it sees foreign affairs solely as a means for short term profits. It's about time the remaining free world sees that and acts accordingly, instead of hoping the US goes back to its old ways.

In my eyes Europe is much more of a spineless (incompetent) coward than USA. They basically accepted Russia to invade Ukraine. They should have sent their best day one. Not there third best equipment day one thousand, after everything from the 50/70 was donated.

The majority of Americans voted for him and Americans aren't suddenly going to think, we want to go back to Biden/Obama era. Nor should the world expect that and even if the USA goes back to those policies we now know that those are very temporarily.

Europe isn't spineless, it's divided and hence unable to produce a strong response. It's an inherent downside of the way Europe does things (but it's not without its upsides as well). In the US, power is consolidated enough for the situation to be on the leader. Trump has all the power to handle the situation more gracefully, yet he chooses not to. In Europe, there simply isn't anyone that could do the same. Of course there's also the question of capability, which most of Europe has overlooked for decades.



More bad news for Russia:

"In December 2025, two and a half months before the launch (of Crew-12), Russian cosmonaut Oleg Artemyev was abruptly removed from the Crew-12 mission, with Roscosmos officially citing his "transition to other work". However, investigative news site The Insider reported that Artemyev was expelled from the United States after being accused of violating International Traffic in Arms Regulations by photographing SpaceX engines, documents, and other technologies with his phone and then "exporting" that information. The alleged violation occurred at SpaceX's facility in Hawthorne, California, in late November and prompted an inter-agency investigation. Artemyev was replaced by cosmonaut Andrey Fedyaev, who will become the first Russian to fly twice on Crew Dragon, reducing the amount of training required."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpaceX_Crew-12

One has to wonder if this bit of news is being discussed at the Berlin talks of today!



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Looks like NATO Supreme Allied Commander Gen. Grynkewich is seated across from Zelensky.





SecondWar said:
Qwark said:

The USA wants to play a different role on the world stage. That is their rightful choice. It's a shame other countries can't seem to find that out. USA is no longer interested in a democratic world, it sees foreign affairs solely as a means for short term profits. It's about time the remaining free world sees that and acts accordingly, instead of hoping the US goes back to its old ways.

In my eyes Europe is much more of a spineless (incompetent) coward than USA. They basically accepted Russia to invade Ukraine. They should have sent their best day one. Not there third best equipment day one thousand, after everything from the 50/70 was donated.

The majority of Americans voted for him and Americans aren't suddenly going to think, we want to go back to Biden/Obama era. Nor should the world expect that and even if the USA goes back to those policies we now know that those are very temporarily.

Thing is there’s a practicality to that that is often overlooked.

lets say in your stockpile you have three years of supplies for what Ukraine needs. The best is the most recently produce, within the last 5 years. Then the ok stuff, produce between 5 and 20 years ago. The bad which was produced 20+ years ago and is about to expire.

If you send the best first then the ok stuff, when you come back in 2 year the bad stuff can no longer be used so you wasted a years worth of equipment. Hence whilst it may not sound great but it makes sense to use the bad stuff first as it helps you keep going for longer,.

Adding to this, most European countries didn't have any significant stocks of modern equipment, only of those that that has been sent to reserves and isn't in active duty anymore. Sending their newest stuff would have meant that their own armies would have been without equipment. Hence why all European countries are on a buying spree, not just to replace what have been sent, but to actually build some strategic reserve in terms of hardware.

And since all the Warsaw Pact equipment has been used up by now (apart of some vehicles in Polish use), If Russia would ever try that stunt again (and it would be many years before they'd be in a position to do so again with all their lost men and materiel), Europe would then be ready to sent more substantial amounts of equipment, and it would for the most part be NATO standard, so it would be much easier for Ukraine to integrate all the equipment than the mashups that they had early in the war.