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SecondWar said:
Ryuu96 said:

Well, yeah. What did you expect? I not sure exactly what crime it would be but tis likely to be along the lines of treason or sedition.

Participation in genocide or something like that. A life in prison hopefully.



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That upside down Russian tank on the previous page is funny simply because the branding text on the side is now right side up… like they expected that this is how the tank would end up :)



I describe myself as a little dose of toxic masculinity.

Ryuu96 said:

Armenia: appeals to CSTO for help defending against Azerbaijan

That's Putin chilling with Aliyev who is President of Azerbaijan, which is currently shelling Armenia, a member of CSTO, Russia's equivalent of NATO.

Tajikistani forces are now reportedly shelling Kyrgyzstani border.

Tajikistani and Kyrgyzstani are both members of CSTO.

What a joke of an organisation.

Yeah, I figured as much about Russia with regards to Armenia during the 2020 conflict. Russia isn't the time to join in a war unless it thinks there's something in it for them. It was never going to help Armenia solely at Armenia's request. I said at the end of the 2020 war to someone who was pro-Azeribaijan that there was clearly going to be another war there sooner or later as the 2020 left unfinished business on both sides. They, for some reason, they seemed to think Azerbaijan would stuff leave it be. There's some low level of clashes between the two countries every few months.

For Tajikistan and Kyrgyzstan, I'm not too familiar with their history. Best I can tell, Tajikistan has a bunch of small enclaves surrounded by Kyrgyzstan and it all seems to relate to them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_Kyrgyzstan%E2%80%93Tajikistan_clashes



Ryuu96 said:

Wagner casually calling for terrorist attacks on Europe.

Can we classify them a terrorist organisation now.



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Ryuu96 said:

That would be over 2% of the town's population in just 5 months. Assuming this is post-occupation deaths, this is a level of brutality pratically without parallels, worse than the nazis in WW2 and comparable to Pol Pot's Cambodia. It seems Bucha wasn't the exception.



 

 

 

 

 

Ryuu96 said:
haxxiy said:

That would be over 2% of the town's population in just 5 months. Assuming this is post-occupation deaths, this is a level of brutality pratically without parallels, worse than the nazis in WW2 and comparable to Pol Pot's Cambodia. It seems Bucha wasn't the exception.

Probably the same in every city at this rate, they're going to uncover some horrific stuff in Mariupol.

Yeah, I remember Maxar sattelite images from different places around Mariupol with the preperation of huge mass graves months ago. Will be ten thousands of killed people there If they won't just transport them away from there to Russia to burn them or something like that 



Russia: we shoot from Belarus on Ukraine and use drones from Iran to fight in Ukraine

Also Russia: we blackmail everyone as nuclear power not to send weapons to Ukraine which could be used to attack on Russian ground

That logic...how about giving Ukraine some damn modern tanks already if Russia is "allowed" to get help from other countries to fight outside of Russia



Armenia is in a tricky political situation there. Bear in mind Iran is a fairly close ally, if it gains US support then clearly it loses Iran. Also Israel backs Azerbaijan so possible the US tells Israel to cool it in that department. The 2020 war also started roughly the same time Armenia started trying to get closer to Nato, so it’s possible Russia almost let Azerbaijan attack in order to force Armenia back into line.

I’d always thought if things did escalate there into a larger regional war that the US would back Azerbaijan. Iran’s northwestern regions are primarily populated by ethnic Azeris. You’d reasonably suspects that Azerbaijan would want to claim those lands and those people would want to join Azerbaijan so probably wouldn’t be a hard sell.

But then, things are never straight forward in geopolitics. Also the hypothetical regional war I mentioned is probably not that far short of a world war so hopefully unlikely in any case.



Ryuu96 said:

Isn't Turkey a close ally of Azerbaijan? It wouldn't be surprising to me if Turkey is pushing Azerbaijan behind the scenes, Erdogan plays everyone, Russia, Europe, America, as long as it benefits him, curious to see how America handles him if they want to form closer bonds with Armenia.

CSTO is really collapsing before our very eyes though.

  1. Russia - Looking like a clown in Ukraine.
  2. Armenia - Being attacked by Azerbaijan and receiving little to no help from CSTO and as a result they're forming closer bonds with America.
  3. Kazakhstan - Publicly critical of Russia's invasion of Ukraine, sending aid to Ukraine, forming closer bonds with China and the West.
  4. Kyrgyzstan - Attacking Tajikistan.
  5. Tajikistan - Attacking Kyrgyzstan.
  6. Belarus.

It is, but Azerbaijan never really needs any encouragement to attack Armenia.