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Ryuu96 said:

Speaking to reporters in the Oval Office during a meeting with Norway’s prime minister, Trump was asked what concessions Russia has “offered up thus far to get to the point where you’re closer to peace.”

“Stopping the war, stopping from taking the whole country, pretty big concession,” Trump responded. 

Trump suggests Russia's concession for peace is ending war

Oh my fucking God...He actually said what I was saying out loud, these fucking idiots running America actually consider Russia not slaughtering all of Ukraine to be a concession that Russia is making. What the fuck. America has truly turned into one of the most pathetic, embarrassing countries in the world.

Poor Putin, he is making a big concession, he can't commit Nazi genocide on another country! - Trump.

Dunno if he's just an idiot or expects to get rich from renewed trade with Russia or just been hanging out too much with Netanyahu. But that's exactly how Wittkoff is presenting (temporary) ceasefire deals in Gaza.

Trump's negotiation style is grovel to one side and screw the other as much as possible.

As said in one of the comments on You Tube "Art of the kneel"



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Ryuu96 said:

Russia’s Shoigu claims EU peacekeepers in Ukraine could trigger World War III—and calls Ukraine “our historical territory.”

Russia wants full control over Ukraine, no interference from Europe, and a clear path to rearm and try again. Their intentions couldn’t be more obvious

Ah yes. “Historical territory”. Conveniently their maps don’t go further back then 1945.

EDIT: Somehow the one with the missiles is still in my post, even though I removed it in the quote…

EDIT2: Fixed it. Was still there in the code. Strange.

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SvennoJ said:
Ryuu96 said:

Speaking to reporters in the Oval Office during a meeting with Norway’s prime minister, Trump was asked what concessions Russia has “offered up thus far to get to the point where you’re closer to peace.”

“Stopping the war, stopping from taking the whole country, pretty big concession,” Trump responded. 

Trump suggests Russia's concession for peace is ending war

Oh my fucking God...He actually said what I was saying out loud, these fucking idiots running America actually consider Russia not slaughtering all of Ukraine to be a concession that Russia is making. What the fuck. America has truly turned into one of the most pathetic, embarrassing countries in the world.

Poor Putin, he is making a big concession, he can't commit Nazi genocide on another country! - Trump.

Dunno if he's just an idiot or expects to get rich from renewed trade with Russia or just been hanging out too much with Netanyahu. But that's exactly how Wittkoff is presenting (temporary) ceasefire deals in Gaza.

Trump's negotiation style is grovel to one side and screw the other as much as possible.

As said in one of the comments on You Tube "Art of the kneel"

The only time Republicans don't get mad about kneeling is when it's in service of Russia.



This concession logic is so fucking stupid too because what happens when Russia threatens to invade lets say, Moldova, or even Latvia, is "Master Negotiator" Trump then going to come in like the fucking idiot he is and say "Lativa/Moldova must surrender concessions to Russia, Russia's concession will be that they won't invade!" Like what the fuck.

In no way is Russia "not taking all of Ukraine" a concession, not to mention they don't even have the ability to do that.



Ryuu96 said:

Speaking to reporters in the Oval Office during a meeting with Norway’s prime minister, Trump was asked what concessions Russia has “offered up thus far to get to the point where you’re closer to peace.”

“Stopping the war, stopping from taking the whole country, pretty big concession,” Trump responded. 

Trump suggests Russia's concession for peace is ending war

Oh my fucking God...He actually said what I was saying out loud, these fucking idiots running America actually consider Russia not slaughtering all of Ukraine to be a concession that Russia is making. What the fuck. America has truly turned into one of the most pathetic, embarrassing countries in the world.

Poor Putin, he is making a big concession, he can't commit Nazi genocide on another country! - Trump.

Up until recently I would have given Biden's foreign policy for Ukraine a grade of F, because the cowardice to stand up against fascism was appalling. But as bad as the Biden administration handled things on a lot of occasions, it now looks like a solid D; or in a word, passable. They had no clear goal, but at least they had an interest in maintaining the status quo of giving enough to Ukraine to prevent surrender.

Trump's current confession is in line with the USA switching sides in this war, which already happened two months ago.



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Ryuu96 said:

This concession logic is so fucking stupid too because what happens when Russia threatens to invade lets say, Moldova, or even Latvia, is "Master Negotiator" Trump then going to come in like the fucking idiot he is and say "Lativa/Moldova must surrender concessions to Russia, Russia's concession will be that they won't invade!" Like what the fuck.

In no way is Russia "not taking all of Ukraine" a concession, not to mention they don't even have the ability to do that.

It's a theme with Trump. He's been saying it since 2016 at least for Crimea

https://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/trump-crimea-sanctions-russia-226292
07/27/2016 Donald Trump said Wednesday that, if he is elected president, he would consider recognizing Crimea as Russian territory and lifting the sanctions against Russia.


And of course he has recognized the Golan Heights as part of Israel

Golan Heights: Israel unveils 'Trump Heights' settlement
2019: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-48656431
At a naming ceremony on Sunday, Mr Netanyahu said Trump Heights honoured Mr Trump for his decision to recognise Israeli sovereignty over the territory.


And of course there are many decades of history in the ME to see annexation only leads to further annexation, more parts of Lebanon and Syria taken now.

Trump is consistent at least, the public are the ones who keep forgetting thanks to the media.



It's much more than a concession, that word is used as a euphemism to make it sound 'reasonable' to give up part of your country / home to barbaric invaders.

Anyway we had the analogy plenty times before. Someone decides to bomb your home and set up camp in your living room. Well, let them have your living room and promise not to defend yourself in trade for your life. You can still live in the ruins of the rest of your house, as long as you keep paying reparations to the invader.

I'm glad to see Europe is starting to stand up to the USA, yet much more still needs to be done.



SvennoJ said:
Ryuu96 said:

This concession logic is so fucking stupid too because what happens when Russia threatens to invade lets say, Moldova, or even Latvia, is "Master Negotiator" Trump then going to come in like the fucking idiot he is and say "Lativa/Moldova must surrender concessions to Russia, Russia's concession will be that they won't invade!" Like what the fuck.

In no way is Russia "not taking all of Ukraine" a concession, not to mention they don't even have the ability to do that.

It's a theme with Trump. He's been saying it since 2016 at least for Crimea

https://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/trump-crimea-sanctions-russia-226292
07/27/2016 Donald Trump said Wednesday that, if he is elected president, he would consider recognizing Crimea as Russian territory and lifting the sanctions against Russia.


And of course he has recognized the Golan Heights as part of Israel

Golan Heights: Israel unveils 'Trump Heights' settlement
2019: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-48656431
At a naming ceremony on Sunday, Mr Netanyahu said Trump Heights honoured Mr Trump for his decision to recognise Israeli sovereignty over the territory.

To that, I'll say:

Vive la Louisane libre!

and:

¡Viva Puerto Rico Libre!

No seriously, how would he react if someone would consider ANY part of the US as their territory - or even just becoming independent of the US. If Mexico would call and want Texas, New Mexico and Arizona back, I seriously doubt he would honor their demands for some reason.



The son of a deputy head of the CIA was killed fighting for Russia in Ukraine in 2024, Russian publication Important Stories reported in an investigation published on April 25. Michael Gloss, 21, was the son of CIA Deputy Director for Digital Innovation Julianne Gallina Gloss, and Iraq war veteran Larry Gloss.

According to an obituary written by his parents, Gloss "was tragically killed in Eastern Europe," while he "was forging his own hero’s journey with his noble heart and warrior spirit." "He wanted the world to be a better place with more fairness, peace and harmony with nature," it says. "In his brief life, he built houses in Honduras, he restored buildings in Turkiye destroyed by earthquakes, he worked on farms in Italy learning sustainable agriculture."

The obituary made no mention of Russia or Ukraine.

CIA Deputy Director’s Son Killed While Fighting For Russia in Ukraine

He loved to serenade family and his college classmates with love songs and classic acoustic rock. He regretted not being able to carry his guitar with him on his adventures overseas, and instead of carrying his own, he opened himself to the music of friends from all over the world. He joined the Rainbow Family in Türkiye who welcomed him with love, kindness and generosity.

Michael was fascinated by the hero’s journey and loved JRR Tolkien and his depiction of fellowship among heroes. He equally loved Adventure Time and the adventures of Finn and Jake, who were equally just in their quest for simple truth. With his noble heart and warrior spirit Michael was forging his own hero’s journey when he was tragically killed in Eastern Europe on April 4, 2024.

Obituary For Michael Alexander Gloss

This is a CIA official wistfully reminiscing about how their child joined the Russian military to do some murder in Ukraine by the way

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— Mira of Kyiv 🇺🇦 (@reshetz.bsky.social) 25 April 2025 at 13:27

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Of course in one of his images he is holding a hammer and sickle, fucking tankies man, Lol. Anyway, I can't see much tragic about his death nor his "noble heart" I'm sorry parents, your son was a Nazi supporter and his mother should have had her CIA clearance rescinded the moment he joined the Russian army, a huge security risk but Russia isn't smart and just thrown him into the meat grinder instead.

Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 25 April 2025