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angrypoolman said:
javi741 said:

Man people are trying to cope so hard saying Switch will be the winner once it reaches 156M lol. The discussion of PS2 selling 155M total should be long dead at this point. Not only estimations since like 2013 put the range of PS2 sales from 158.7-161.9 based on Sony's reports, but we now had Sony themselves confirm last year it sold over 160 Million. The only feasible range now is 160.01M-160.99M.

I'll consider the Switch to win if it sells more than 160.01M, while range of PS2 sales could be potentially higher, as high as 160.9. A confirmed number of Switch sales should always be taken with more weight than just a guessing game of PS2's range of numbers.

But no, selling more than 155M does not mean it beats the PS2. People need to stop making up imaginary wins just so they could cope with the idea that Switch may not make it to 160M. It really doesn't matter than much if it falls short, doesn't make it any less amazing or great of a console and people will still view the Switch very highly.

Switch will be the winner and i will declare it as such once it passes 156, you can do whatever you want to try to cope with that but your cope isnt going to change the facts sorry to say

You're the one who's coping and denying facts and reality.



 

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RedKingXIII said:
angrypoolman said:

Switch will be the winner and i will declare it as such once it passes 156, you can do whatever you want to try to cope with that but your cope isnt going to change the facts sorry to say

You're the one who's coping and denying facts and reality.

no you're the one who's coping



RedKingXIII said:
angrypoolman said:

Switch will be the winner and i will declare it as such once it passes 156, you can do whatever you want to try to cope with that but your cope isnt going to change the facts sorry to say

You're the one who's coping and denying facts and reality.

I see both sides. I’m a pc gamer so have zero allegiance to a console but I will say this. 

it is not a fact Sony sold 160m u its cause they haven’t provided the sales data to back it up. So I would say that Sony is claiming to have sold 160m. A claim isn’t fact. 

if I was Nintendo, as soon as I passed 156m I would make the claim of “officially the best selling console of all time”. Put the onus on Sony to provide the proof otherwise. Which they won’t. How do I know - our company did the exact same thing to a competitor with the same results. (Not best selling sales and not consoles obviously, but a claim both companies wanted and both felt entitled to) Stakes were a Little different, lol. Think who’s got the biggest sow in the state fair in comparison. But it worked. And we planned if they actually pushed back to respond to take the title. It was win win for us. 

why won’t Sony push back?  Because they would have to admit to creative accounting in financial statements if there actually were 5 mil in ps2 sales.  

as someone that used to put together the annual reports for a 35b company (not the 90b of Sony, but still significant) I assure you those sales and dollars were not lost to space.  The sales of 5 mil either didn’t happen, were exaggerated or were used to inflate sales data in another area. What a company would never do is not report on the revenue from this ps2 sales,  so they are likely misrepresented as ps3 sales, or something else Sony wanted to make look better. Not necessarily a lie, but just lacking specifics to make an area struggling look good.  

the timing of the claim of 160 is also suspect. But it makes sense from a motivating perspective. PlayStation is all Sony has now, trinitron tvs no longer sell, nor walkmans, media licensing fees in blurayvand dvd have gone the way of the dodo and their movie studio isn’t profitable. If they are essentially the playstaaation company it would make sense they would want to cling to the bet selling console title. And it could very well be true, just from. Business perspective it doesn’t make sense to produce 5 million stock of a product in 2012 and pay for the cost of storage/inventory when you have ps3 and ps4 in production but stranger things have happened. 

regardless, if I was Nintendo, I would just make a counter claim as soon as 156 is reached. Pop a Little cash in marketing to make it a big deal and make the normies believe it and force Sonys hand to provide facts to their claim of 160.  If they don’t you own the “official best selling title” because Nintendo has the sales data and publicly available financial reports to back it up.

regardless. The whole topic is a little silly. Who cares.

good luck to both Sony aaand Nintendo. Keeps things interesting! 



Here’s ChatGPT’s unbiased info/analysis on the 160 vs 155 numbers to support all the fighin’ and a feudin’.

my favourite comment on the 160 “it’s essentially corporate lore” lol  

have fun!



xl-klaudkil said:
angrypoolman said:

Fine switch will be number 1 after it passes 158.7

Which "switch" version thou?

The handheld only variant who can't "switch" or the console/handheld hybrid?

If anything,switch numbers are shady and unfair since it includes a handhel only variant.

I guess psportal will be counted towards ps5 sales since ya know..

Its a ps5 handheld.

Yeah, ok, then we should disregard every PS2 sales number until Sony discloses how many of those were og and how many were slim, happy?



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corporate lore, haha



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Lol even AI mocks them



I pray for Switch1 big sales these holidays!!



javi741 said:

Man people are trying to cope so hard saying Switch will be the winner once it reaches 156M lol. The discussion of PS2 selling 155M total should be long dead at this point. Not only estimations since like 2013 put the range of PS2 sales from 158.7-161.9 based on Sony's reports, but we now had Sony themselves confirm last year it sold over 160 Million. The only feasible range now is 160.01M-160.99M.

I'll consider the Switch to win if it sells more than 160.01M, while range of PS2 sales could be potentially higher, as high as 160.9. A confirmed number of Switch sales should always be taken with more weight than just a guessing game of PS2's range of numbers.

But no, selling more than 155M does not mean it beats the PS2. People need to stop making up imaginary wins just so they could cope with the idea that Switch may not make it to 160M. It really doesn't matter than much if it falls short, doesn't make it any less amazing or great of a console and people will still view the Switch very highly.

Switch will be remembered as one of if not the greatest modern console of all time, if its still playable in 25 years thats another issue.



TheRealSamusAran said:
xl-klaudkil said:

Which "switch" version thou?

The handheld only variant who can't "switch" or the console/handheld hybrid?

If anything,switch numbers are shady and unfair since it includes a handhel only variant.

I guess psportal will be counted towards ps5 sales since ya know..

Its a ps5 handheld.

Yeah, ok, then we should disregard every PS2 sales number until Sony discloses how many of those were og and how many were slim, happy?

Its the same console with the same features, bad waay to try and spin it.

Can the " switch lite" actually switch? Or is it just a deticated handheld?

Yea...thought so.