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Leynos on 19 January 2022
Slownenberg said:
Leynos said:

 rares most overrated game along with Goldeneye.

lol, said no one ever.

The only thing out of date with Goldeneye are the graphics, which can be said of many early 3D games, and the use of the c-buttons rather than having a second analog stick. The gameplay is still absolutely killer. If Goldeneye got added to Switch with online deathmatch it would instantly be the most played game on Switch's online service. Goldeneye is a timeless classic that never gets old. Still one of the best deathmatch games available.

You equate overrated with bad. GE07 was good at the time but aged rapidly mechanically. Even in that generation let alone the ones that followed. Final Fantasy VII a game I love it vastly overrated as well. Overrated doesn't mean bad. Just nostalgia is a rose colored and we make things out to be better than they are. Easy to look over flaws and what has come out since that has improved on gameplay. People like you tend to look at these games as if nothing has changed since their release.



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burninmylight on 03 February 2022
Leynos said:
Slownenberg said:

lol, said no one ever.

The only thing out of date with Goldeneye are the graphics, which can be said of many early 3D games, and the use of the c-buttons rather than having a second analog stick. The gameplay is still absolutely killer. If Goldeneye got added to Switch with online deathmatch it would instantly be the most played game on Switch's online service. Goldeneye is a timeless classic that never gets old. Still one of the best deathmatch games available.

You equate overrated with bad. GE07 was good at the time but aged rapidly mechanically. Even in that generation let alone the ones that followed. Final Fantasy VII a game I love it vastly overrated as well. Overrated doesn't mean bad. Just nostalgia is a rose colored and we make things out to be better than they are. Easy to look over flaws and what has come out since that has improved on gameplay. People like you tend to look at these games as if nothing has changed since their release.

By that logic, every single old game that exists in a genre with modern equivalents is overrated because time, technology and mastery of the medium allows new games that are merely decent to often be better than masterpieces of decades ago. At this point, every single FPS worth your time should be better than GoldenEye, and every 3D platformer should be better than BK, not counting nontechnical factors like plot and presentation. The only things that aren't overrated are... Seaman? Cubivore? Odama? Vib Ribbon?

They are rating these games just fine. No one in here is claiming that quarter-century old N64 games stand up to modern greats like A Hat in Time or Insert FPS Here.



psychicscubadiver on 03 February 2022
burninmylight said:
Leynos said:

You equate overrated with bad. GE07 was good at the time but aged rapidly mechanically. Even in that generation let alone the ones that followed. Final Fantasy VII a game I love it vastly overrated as well. Overrated doesn't mean bad. Just nostalgia is a rose colored and we make things out to be better than they are. Easy to look over flaws and what has come out since that has improved on gameplay. People like you tend to look at these games as if nothing has changed since their release.

By that logic, every single old game that exists in a genre with modern equivalents is overrated because time, technology and mastery of the medium allows new games that are merely decent to often be better than masterpieces of decades ago. At this point, every single FPS worth your time should be better than GoldenEye, and every 3D platformer should be better than BK, not counting nontechnical factors like plot and presentation. The only things that aren't overrated are... Seaman? Cubivore? Odama? Vib Ribbon?

They are rating these games just fine. No one in here is claiming that quarter-century old N64 games stand up to modern greats like A Hat in Time or Insert FPS Here.

I'd argue that Banjo Kazooie is better than Yooka Laylee even without giving it a handicap for its age. But then Yooka Laylee is hardly a 'modern great' so your point still stands.



Kakadu18 on 03 February 2022
RolStoppable said:
burninmylight said:

By that logic, every single old game that exists in a genre with modern equivalents is overrated because time, technology and mastery of the medium allows new games that are merely decent to often be better than masterpieces of decades ago. At this point, every single FPS worth your time should be better than GoldenEye, and every 3D platformer should be better than BK, not counting nontechnical factors like plot and presentation. The only things that aren't overrated are... Seaman? Cubivore? Odama? Vib Ribbon?

They are rating these games just fine. No one in here is claiming that quarter-century old N64 games stand up to modern greats like A Hat in Time or Insert FPS Here.

Seriously? A Hat in Time belongs to the pile of overrated indie games. Its worlds are way too big and they are more often than not poorly designed.

A modern great is Super Mario Odyssey. You cannot seriously believe that A Hat in Time is a good game, let alone a great one. I don't think you played it; you just go by what you've read from others. It must be. Your judgment can't be this poor.

I guess most people's judgement is poor, since the PS4 version for example got a 79 metascore and 8.7 userscore. Dude, an opinion is an opinion.

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refutableport on 05 February 2022

I'm sure the emulation will be amazing. I mean it will be glitchy but the only people who will complain aren't even Nintendo fans. Besides they can play the original games on N64 if they so want the exact experience or the HD crap that is the 360 port.