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Will Sony relaunch psCloud with PSP?!

Yes this makes great sense 2 8.33%
 
Girl what are you smoking 10 41.67%
 
Maybe 3 12.50%
 
No 9 37.50%
 
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zero129 said:

Imo the Vita was ahead of its time. And i honestly think Steamdeck is powerful enough to play Switch games at at least 1.5-2x res (Depending on the game)

From what I've seen, games like BotW need at least a RTX 2060 for 1080p, and even then there are drops on the GPU side of things. Some games, like Mario Odyssey, still suffer drops on a GTX 1080 at 1080p. 

So I don't agree. Maybe when the emulator has better optimizations, but when the Steam Deck launches it won't be performing too well on the Switch emulator side of things. There is just too much headroom. While the Steam Deck has great specs for what it is, it's not at the level of mid-level PC's. 



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Highly doubtful.



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Play Switch games on a Switch Don't steal them. Pretty simple. I won't even entertain another defender of using ROMs to play modern games not paid for.



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zero129 said:
Leynos said:

Play Switch games on a Switch Don't steal them. Pretty simple. I won't even entertain another defender of using ROMs to play modern games not paid for.

Oh so thats what this is about. And what about all the people who own a Switch and might want to play them in higher quality?.

So many people wants a Switch Pro well now they have one with the benefit of also being a Xbox Portable and PSP Next too.

And emulation has done great things for the industry as so many games would be lost to time and gone missing if it wasnt for emulation, even Nintendo has been using emulation for their older games. Im sorry your so narrow sighted you cant see this.

He said modern games. I don't see where he objected against emulation as a whole. Emulating Switch games is theft if you haven't bought them already. They aren't legacy products that are in danger of getting lost to time, they're new.



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V-r0cK said:

100% wont happen, but I would love to be so wrong. I loved my PSP Go.

Take another beating against Nintendo and jeopardize the stationary division? Better focus on Ps5



zero129 said:
Kakadu18 said:

He said modern games. I don't see where he objected against emulation as a whole. Emulating Switch games is theft if you haven't bought them already. They aren't legacy products that are in danger of getting lost to time, they're new.

I guess you missed the part that i bolded. And trust me in other reply's from him about emulation he sees it all as theft.

All games are in risk of being lost in time, Nintendo systems have pretty much always been emulated while the systems are still new and guess what. It has not stopped Nintendo games from selling millions on millions of copy's. Not everyone who uses emulation just pirates games as it gives users who own them games another way to play them in much higher quality and that my friend is the bonus of emulation and why people use it.

Ok, I just personally don't like the idea of emulating current games in general. I disagree with the bolded though. Only many years down the line this is the case.



If it gets me access to Persona 4 Golden I'm down to try it out. Almost bought that Playstation tv thing years ago just to play Golden but never got around to it before they disappeared.



leo-j said:

Why would they have patented the DualShock mobile controllers? Also the switch has the gaming handheld market all to itself atm, thus would be a response.

Companies file patents all the time... And for a Myriad of reasons.

Having allot of patents can protect you from patent trolls, you can license those patents out for extra revenue...
Or leverage patents in cross-patent deals so you can leverage intellectual properties from other companies which may prove more valuable.

Either way, patent filings is never a sure-thing that a product or service will come to fruition, it's just evidence that a company has "taken a look" at a certain idea.


In regards to Switch dominating the handheld market... That is true. I think everyone assumed once mobile phones and tablets arrived under every pillow on the planet that there would be no demand for a strictly handheld device... The Switch has blown that hypothesis out of the water.

Microsoft is making approaches into handheld by leveraging services rather than hardware...

Hopefully Sony re-enters the handheld market, more competition is a massive benefit to us consumers.

Doctor_MG said:

Not really a Switch Pro, since I doubt emulation will make games look significantly better on the Steam Deck than on Switch. But it's definitely the closest thing we are getting to a modern PSP or Xbox Portable. Though I do hope Sony tries their hand at a PSP again. I loved the PSP, and the Vita was a nice piece of hardware (with a good launch window library...just died a bit early). 

Some of the two biggest annoyances of Nintendo games is generally the lack of anisotropic filtering and anti-aliasing, the Steam Deck can clear that up.
And although the display is only a paltry 1280x800 on the Steam Deck verses the Switch's also paltry 1280x720... The Steam deck does have the advantage of rendering at higher than native resolution and super sampling that down.

You can also inject 4k textures, maybe a little ray tracing (Haven't looked deeply into the specs until I see final hardware.) and a few more bits and pieces to enhance games.

Doctor_MG said:
zero129 said:

Imo the Vita was ahead of its time. And i honestly think Steamdeck is powerful enough to play Switch games at at least 1.5-2x res (Depending on the game)

From what I've seen, games like BotW need at least a RTX 2060 for 1080p, and even then there are drops on the GPU side of things. Some games, like Mario Odyssey, still suffer drops on a GTX 1080 at 1080p. 

So I don't agree. Maybe when the emulator has better optimizations, but when the Steam Deck launches it won't be performing too well on the Switch emulator side of things. There is just too much headroom. While the Steam Deck has great specs for what it is, it's not at the level of mid-level PC's. 

A Ryzen 2600X and a Geforce 1060 can do 80-90fps at 1080P in breath of the wild.
There are mods and an endless list of settings to enhance performance.

But we also need to remember that the original game was a 30fps experience with framedrops on original hardware as well.

On my Ryzen 2700u notebook, I can do 720P 30fps just fine... Waiting on DDR5+RDNA2 Ryzen notebooks before I upgrade again.

Emulation tends to be very CPU heavy, the WiiU and Switch are not graphical powerhouses and those workloads are comparatively light for modern GPU's.




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zero129 said:
Leynos said:

Play Switch games on a Switch Don't steal them. Pretty simple. I won't even entertain another defender of using ROMs to play modern games not paid for.

Oh so thats what this is about. And what about all the people who own a Switch and might want to play them in higher quality?.

So many people wants a Switch Pro well now they have one with the benefit of also being a Xbox Portable and PSP Next too.

And emulation has done great things for the industry as so many games would be lost to time and gone missing if it wasnt for emulation, even Nintendo has been using emulation for their older games. Im sorry your so narrow sighted you cant see this.

Yep, because every one in emulation buy every single game they emulate.

And sure we can pretend the specs of SteamDeck is equivalent to SwitchPro or whatever spec Sony would go for their handheld that would coexist PS5.



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