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Shame I didn't post... would have liked a laugh at my own expense. (though back then I don't think my predictions were as bad as some in this thread)

You can't really blame people back then though, there are a number of different types of predictors:

The basic rabid fans of a specific console will generally say yes to any question posed like this (Will [console] sell [X] million) unless it is utterly non-sensical (and back in early 2008 this site was mostly Nintendo fans, though it was around that time that the Sony fanbase started increasing)

The basic fans of other consoles will generally say no, and some of the sensible ones will look at some past data and estimate future sales from there... such as assuming the X360 wouldn't do well due to XB

The statistic whores like myself would look at past trends in detail, and work out probable outcomes based on current trending sales. This may generally be a good method to use, but unless you know some of the business practices and intentions of the big companies, it can go horribly wrong.... for example in early 2008 it was still assumed by many that the success of the Wii must have pushed 3rd parties to start making an effort sometime during 2007, and that the games they actually put money and good developers to would start coming in late 2008.
Again looking at myself, I had little interest in the X360 other than watching the numbers climb on VGC.... given past trends where there is generally 1 leading console (that subsequently gets the brunt of 3rd party development efforts) and that others will fall simply due to lack of support, and with no knowledge of how much money and effort MS and Sony would put into pushing their systems.... as such I think back then I was pegging the X360 to finish round about at 50 million (ie 50/50 chance it would pass 50mil)

Finally you have the crazies like Avinashi, John Lucas and Crazzyman himself (who may have had a decent prediction for X360, but he was also predicting thing like PS3 being 7 million ahead of X360 by the end of 2009)



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I found an old prediction of mine from August 2008... you can tell I'm of the stats whore type as I try to cover most scenarios without tying myself down to a specific figure, having said that the X360 is still obviously going to exceed my maximum (X360 I assumed would start to be outclassed by the PS3)

I posted them in this thread, whoch is also a good oldie to browse as it was started by John Lucas.
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=37495

Wii Minimum Expected range Maximum
World 100 140-155 200?
Japan 18 20-25 30
Americas 45 65-70 85
Others 37 55-60 85
PS3
Minimum Expected range Maximum
World 40
50-60 85
Japan 4 5-7 8
Americas 14 16-19 32
Others 22 29-34 45
X360
Minimum Expected range Maximum
World 40 45-55 65
Japan 1 1-1.5 2
Americas 25 29-35.5 42
Others 14 15-18 21

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DS Minimum Expected range Maximum
World 125 150-165 200?
Japan 27 30-35 35
America 43 50-55 65
Others 55 70-75 100
PSP Minimum Expected range Maximum
World 55 60-70 80
Japan 15 16-19 21
America 20 23-26 30
Others 20 21-25 29


amp316 said:
I'd say about 30 million. Just a hunch.

What an idiot this guy was.



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Funny to look back at the thoughts people had back then. The funny thing is, that most people were making pretty good guesses based on the available info. Like most people recognize now, this generation proved that $$$ can buy 3rd party support(360) or the lack of it(wii) can make limited 3rd party support. Who knew all of our beloved publishers were in it for the money? Ha Ha!



Funny to see this again. What are the chances MS announces 65 million shipped at CES in January?



Its libraries that sell systems not a single game.

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Nintendogamer said:
I would bet £2000 that it will :)

Hey no travelling to the future.



 

TWRoO said:
Shame I didn't post... would have liked a laugh at my own expense. (though back then I don't think my predictions were as bad as some in this thread)

You can't really blame people back then though, there are a number of different types of predictors:

The basic rabid fans of a specific console will generally say yes to any question posed like this (Will [console] sell [X] million) unless it is utterly non-sensical (and back in early 2008 this site was mostly Nintendo fans, though it was around that time that the Sony fanbase started increasing)

The basic fans of other consoles will generally say no, and some of the sensible ones will look at some past data and estimate future sales from there... such as assuming the X360 wouldn't do well due to XB

The statistic whores like myself would look at past trends in detail, and work out probable outcomes based on current trending sales. This may generally be a good method to use, but unless you know some of the business practices and intentions of the big companies, it can go horribly wrong.... for example in early 2008 it was still assumed by many that the success of the Wii must have pushed 3rd parties to start making an effort sometime during 2007, and that the games they actually put money and good developers to would start coming in late 2008.
Again looking at myself, I had little interest in the X360 other than watching the numbers climb on VGC.... given past trends where there is generally 1 leading console (that subsequently gets the brunt of 3rd party development efforts) and that others will fall simply due to lack of support, and with no knowledge of how much money and effort MS and Sony would put into pushing their systems.... as such I think back then I was pegging the X360 to finish round about at 50 million (ie 50/50 chance it would pass 50mil)

Finally you have the crazies like Avinashi, John Lucas and Crazzyman himself (who may have had a decent prediction for X360, but he was also predicting thing like PS3 being 7 million ahead of X360 by the end of 2009)

You forgot how every developper of HD games and especially PS3 exclusive HD developpers would go bankrupt or would lose so much money on the HD twins that they go over to make Wii games....   also people still assumed that in the first half of 2009 thx to the late 2008 announcement of DQ X on Wii and SE announcing at E3 2008 that FFXIII would go multiplatform (assumed they were scared to lose a lot of money with FFXIII being exclusive for PS3.)



 

Hmm, seems its 10 million past expectations and still going



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Skeeuk said:

i dont think the 360 will ever hit 50 million

i believe the playstation 3 will sell over 100 million lifetime, followed by wii 60-70 million