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What excites you most about TGA?

The winners 0 0%
 
The tears of the losers 1 6.67%
 
Geoff getting visibly frustrated 0 0%
 
Game Announcements 8 53.33%
 
The guy who voices "world premiere" 3 20.00%
 
When the credits role 0 0%
 
Revealing viewership from last year to brag 0 0%
 
Josef fares... Anything to do with the man 2 13.33%
 
Live Music 0 0%
 
A rumored game once again not bring announced 1 6.67%
 
Total:15
eva01beserk said:

I skiped last year and just watched the anouncements the next day. Might do the same this year.

Although I got to say that the last coment made by keely picked my interest. That some games dint get shown last year because of the pandemic. So if those games get shown now means that they will be soon to release. Please keep the CG trailers to a minimum.

That's the trade off of shows like this or old-school E3. As fun as the consolidated shows are compared to every publisher having their own presentation format/timing and being able to deep dive into each game, the negative is these companies only get seconds to minutes to announce their game and CGI goes a long way to excite people if they only get that little time.

Geoff runs through things at a rapid pace so people don't have the time to do 5-10 minute deep dive gameplay trailers. The only time they have has to be spent emotionally captivating people and you achieve that more easily with cinematics.



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Dulfite said:
eva01beserk said:

I skiped last year and just watched the anouncements the next day. Might do the same this year.

Although I got to say that the last coment made by keely picked my interest. That some games dint get shown last year because of the pandemic. So if those games get shown now means that they will be soon to release. Please keep the CG trailers to a minimum.

That's the trade off of shows like this or old-school E3. As fun as the consolidated shows are compared to every publisher having their own presentation format/timing and being able to deep dive into each game, the negative is these companies only get seconds to minutes to announce their game and CGI goes a long way to excite people if they only get that little time.

Geoff runs through things at a rapid pace so people don't have the time to do 5-10 minute deep dive gameplay trailers. The only time they have has to be spent emotionally captivating people and you achieve that more easily with cinematics.

It's weird because it's a surefire way to loose my interest. I see a CGI cinematic and I'm like "I have no idea if I want to play that game". In contrast, I saw 30 seconds of combat from Tales of Arise and I was sold.

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TruckOSaurus said:
Dulfite said:

That's the trade off of shows like this or old-school E3. As fun as the consolidated shows are compared to every publisher having their own presentation format/timing and being able to deep dive into each game, the negative is these companies only get seconds to minutes to announce their game and CGI goes a long way to excite people if they only get that little time.

Geoff runs through things at a rapid pace so people don't have the time to do 5-10 minute deep dive gameplay trailers. The only time they have has to be spent emotionally captivating people and you achieve that more easily with cinematics.

It's weird because it's a surefire way to loose my interest. I see a CGI cinematic and I'm like "I have no idea if I want to play that game". In contrast, I saw 30 seconds of combat from Tales of Arise and I was sold.

Well, I'm kind of in the middle. I like seeing how a game plays, but I find stories to be the most important aspect of games, so seeing those emotional trailers are really important to me. Regardless, if the majority were like you then I'm sure their trailers would lean more into gameplay than cinematics. The fact that they so often focus on cinematics tells me that's what's more appealing towards most people, as they want to make as much money as possible.



At the poll; when things that are heavily rumoured and hyped and everything and then there's just no mention of it. Not a letter. And everybody is pissed because they bet their life savings on it. I always find that hilarious.



Dulfite said:
TruckOSaurus said:

It's weird because it's a surefire way to loose my interest. I see a CGI cinematic and I'm like "I have no idea if I want to play that game". In contrast, I saw 30 seconds of combat from Tales of Arise and I was sold.

Well, I'm kind of in the middle. I like seeing how a game plays, but I find stories to be the most important aspect of games, so seeing those emotional trailers are really important to me. Regardless, if the majority were like you then I'm sure their trailers would lean more into gameplay than cinematics. The fact that they so often focus on cinematics tells me that's what's more appealing towards most people, as they want to make as much money as possible.

The thing with cinematics is that it's far easier to make them immediately appealing than gameplay. In fact, even for gameplay trailers, it's very common for people to judge how good the game will turn out based solely on looks, even if they don't realize that's what they're judging. A good example of how CGI trailers can make a product way more appealing than it'd otherwise be is the Avengers game. I don't remember when exactly they announced that, I think it was at some Game Awards (?), but it was a cinematic-only trailer and even if it looked like a MCU knock-off, it at least looked like a potentially interesting story-driven experience. Which it wasn't.

Conversely, I agree with Trucks that cinematic trailers, generally, suck. A good example of that is Death Stranding. That game had years of trailers going on without anyone having the slightest clue what the gameplay would be like. It could be a trading card game for all we knew. It was totally bizarre, and even if it's not a game I'd have been interested in anyway, the truth is that whatever curiosity I initially had was completely dead by the time it was coming out because I didn't know what the game was.

And while on the topic of cinematics vs. gameplay, story-driven games, and Marvel games, I think something came out last month you could enjoy.




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S.Peelman said:

At the poll; when things that are heavily rumoured and hyped and everything and then there's just no mention of it. Not a letter. And everybody is pissed because they bet their life savings on it. I always find that hilarious.

This is exactly what I was thinking when I made that option 😂



mZuzek said:
Dulfite said:

Well, I'm kind of in the middle. I like seeing how a game plays, but I find stories to be the most important aspect of games, so seeing those emotional trailers are really important to me. Regardless, if the majority were like you then I'm sure their trailers would lean more into gameplay than cinematics. The fact that they so often focus on cinematics tells me that's what's more appealing towards most people, as they want to make as much money as possible.

The thing with cinematics is that it's far easier to make them immediately appealing than gameplay. In fact, even for gameplay trailers, it's very common for people to judge how good the game will turn out based solely on looks, even if they don't realize that's what they're judging. A good example of how CGI trailers can make a product way more appealing than it'd otherwise be is the Avengers game. I don't remember when exactly they announced that, I think it was at some Game Awards (?), but it was a cinematic-only trailer and even if it looked like a MCU knock-off, it at least looked like a potentially interesting story-driven experience. Which it wasn't.

Conversely, I agree with Trucks that cinematic trailers, generally, suck. A good example of that is Death Stranding. That game had years of trailers going on without anyone having the slightest clue what the gameplay would be like. It could be a trading card game for all we knew. It was totally bizarre, and even if it's not a game I'd have been interested in anyway, the truth is that whatever curiosity I initially had was completely dead by the time it was coming out because I didn't know what the game was.

And while on the topic of cinematics vs. gameplay, story-driven games, and Marvel games, I think something came out last month you could enjoy.

One downside of using time to focus on gameplay rather than cinematic is, especially with Non-Nintendo studios, they show off the game 2+ years before it's coming most of the time, so the gameplay we see is usually alpha builds and therefore not refined at all, so then we get trailers like Halo Infinite had at first and they get roasted. With cinematics you don't really have that problem.

Which game came out last month?



Dulfite said:
mZuzek said:

And while on the topic of cinematics vs. gameplay, story-driven games, and Marvel games, I think something came out last month you could enjoy.

Which game came out last month?

Many games came out last month, it was filled with big releases, from the likes of FIFA 22 and Far Cry 6 to Mario Party Superstars, to Age of Empires 4, to Back 4 Blood, to game of the year contender Metroid Dread. And among all that there was a Guardians of the Galaxy game which is in the running for best narrative at TGA and is the one I was talking about. Because when am I not talking about Guardians?




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mZuzek said:
Dulfite said:

Which game came out last month?

Many games came out last month, it was filled with big releases, from the likes of FIFA 22 and Far Cry 6 to Mario Party Superstars, to Age of Empires 4, to Back 4 Blood, to game of the year contender Metroid Dread. And among all that there was a Guardians of the Galaxy game which is in the running for best narrative at TGA and is the one I was talking about. Because when am I not talking about Guardians?

Oh I knew about those games, I just wanted to know which game you were referring to. I tried GoTG, but as I said before I can't start over on that story after watching so many movies/shows in the same continuity. Unless something comes out and it's within the MCU, I'm not interested. Too much to start over for me mentally and emotionally. It's why I don't watch the Sony movies either.



Dulfite said:
mZuzek said:

Many games came out last month, it was filled with big releases, from the likes of FIFA 22 and Far Cry 6 to Mario Party Superstars, to Age of Empires 4, to Back 4 Blood, to game of the year contender Metroid Dread. And among all that there was a Guardians of the Galaxy game which is in the running for best narrative at TGA and is the one I was talking about. Because when am I not talking about Guardians?

Oh I knew about those games, I just wanted to know which game you were referring to. I tried GoTG, but as I said before I can't start over on that story after watching so many movies/shows in the same continuity. Unless something comes out and it's within the MCU, I'm not interested. Too much to start over for me mentally and emotionally. It's why I don't watch the Sony movies either.

That's too bad. For me the characters and world feel different enough to separate them from the MCU, but I can see where you're coming from.




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