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curl-6 on 12 August 2021

Even equating the Switch to the Wii at this point shows one is wilfully ignoring how obviously different the two are.

Besides the fact their trajectories are totally different with Switch peaking 2 years later, let's compare Switch's announced lineup of major games right now to Wii's 2011-2012 shall we?

Switch announced: BOTW2, Pokémon Legends Arceus, Splatoon 3, Pokémon Diamond/Pearl remakes, Mario Party Superstars, Metroid Dread, Shin Megami Tensei V,  Mario + Rabbids Sparks of Hope, Project Triangle Strategy...

Wii 2011-2012: Zelda Skyward Sword, Xenoblade Chronicles, (limited and staggered release) The Last Story, (ditto) Pandora's Tower, (ditto) Mario Party 9

And this is without counting the 2022 Switch games we don't know about yet or which have been rumored but not confirmed; based on what insiders are saying we could be adding to the list a new Donkey Kong, new Kirby, new Resident Evil, Xenoblade Chronicles 3...

The difference is enormous. No claim that the two are analogous has any credibility.

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zorg1000 on 12 August 2021
DitchPlaya said:
Mandalore76 said:

Lol, "the cliff" that was predicted but didn't happen in 2018, 2019, or 2020?  Sales don't go up forever, so a decline at some point is inevitable.  But, when it does, the people who have been waiting & even hoping for it for 4 years don't get to say, "see I told you so!"  Especially since a "cliff" implies a total collapse in sales.  

Do you remember the Wii, how that was going to change gaming and was set to outsell the PS2? Well you might want to check up on its fourth year sales.

That literally has nothing to do with anything Mandalore just said.

But if you really want to compare Switch to Wii, let's do it.

Wii vs NSW

FY07-5.84 vs FY17-2.74

FY08-18.61 vs FY18-15.05

FY09-25.95 vs FY19-16.95

FY10-20.54 vs FY20-21.03

FY11-15.08 vs FY21-28.83

FY12-9.84 vs FY22-25.5 (projection)

I would love to hear a logical explanation for how these are in anyway comparable situations.



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zorg1000 on 12 August 2021
curl-6 said:

Even equating the Switch to the Wii at this point shows one is wilfully ignoring how obviously different the two are.

Besides the fact their trajectories are totally different with Switch peaking 2 years later, let's compare Switch's announced lineup of major games right now to Wii's 2011-2012 shall we?

Switch announced: BOTW2, Pokémon Legends Arceus, Splatoon 3, Pokémon Diamond/Pearl remakes, Mario Party Superstars, Metroid Dread, Shin Megami Tensei V,  Mario + Rabbids Sparks of Hope, Project Triangle Strategy...

Wii 2011-2012: Zelda Skyward Sword, Xenoblade Chronicles, (limited and staggered release) The Last Story, (ditto) Pandora's Tower, (ditto) Mario Party 9

And this is without counting the 2022 Switch games we don't know about yet or which have been rumored but not confirmed; based on what insiders are saying we could be adding to the list a new Donkey Kong, new Kirby, new Resident Evil, Xenoblade Chronicles 3...

The difference is enormous. No claim that the two are analogous has any credibility.

You forgot Kirby for Wii!!!



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curl-6 on 12 August 2021
zorg1000 said:
curl-6 said:

Even equating the Switch to the Wii at this point shows one is wilfully ignoring how obviously different the two are.

Besides the fact their trajectories are totally different with Switch peaking 2 years later, let's compare Switch's announced lineup of major games right now to Wii's 2011-2012 shall we?

Switch announced: BOTW2, Pokémon Legends Arceus, Splatoon 3, Pokémon Diamond/Pearl remakes, Mario Party Superstars, Metroid Dread, Shin Megami Tensei V,  Mario + Rabbids Sparks of Hope, Project Triangle Strategy...

Wii 2011-2012: Zelda Skyward Sword, Xenoblade Chronicles, (limited and staggered release) The Last Story, (ditto) Pandora's Tower, (ditto) Mario Party 9

And this is without counting the 2022 Switch games we don't know about yet or which have been rumored but not confirmed; based on what insiders are saying we could be adding to the list a new Donkey Kong, new Kirby, new Resident Evil, Xenoblade Chronicles 3...

The difference is enormous. No claim that the two are analogous has any credibility.

You forgot Kirby for Wii!!!

Indeed I did, but then if we broaden the range of games we're including then on the Switch side I'd throw in No More Heroes 3, Warioware, Darksiders 3, World War Z, Fall Guys, Life is Strange True Colours, etc.



Pemalite on 13 August 2021
curl-6 said:

David Gibson of Astris Advisory, who has a good track record in the industry, reckons the current global semiconductor shortage is affecting Switch supply.

Everyone in the industry is affected by the semiconductor shortage.

Nintendo is less exposed to it though due to it's chips being older and on an older manufacturing process with less congestion... But it is definitely still there as NAND, RAM and other components are still susceptible to the chip crunch.




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Kakadu18 on 13 August 2021
curl-6 said:
zorg1000 said:

You forgot Kirby for Wii!!!

Indeed I did, but then if we broaden the range of games we're including then on the Switch side I'd throw in No More Heroes 3, Warioware, Darksiders 3, World War Z, Fall Guys, Life is Strange True Colours, etc.

In 2011 there was also Wii Play: Motion.



curl-6 on 13 August 2021
Kakadu18 said:
curl-6 said:

Indeed I did, but then if we broaden the range of games we're including then on the Switch side I'd throw in No More Heroes 3, Warioware, Darksiders 3, World War Z, Fall Guys, Life is Strange True Colours, etc.

In 2011 there was also Wii Play: Motion.

True, but it didn't make much of a splash and wasn't pushed hard. Certainly not in the same league as many of Switch's upcoming games. It's more in the realm of something like Warioware Get It Together than something like BOTW2, Pokemon Legends, Splatoon 3, etc.

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Alby_da_Wolf on 14 August 2021

NS still first, but down, and PS5 close second, it hadn't been so close for months. XS distant third, but up.
Overall not bad for a slow season.



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curl-6 on 14 August 2021

America still a close fight between PS5 and XS in the weekly numbers. Could be an interesting one to watch this gen if MS up their game; focusing supply more on the X would be a good start.



ironmanDX on 14 August 2021
curl-6 said:

America still a close fight between PS5 and XS in the weekly numbers. Could be an interesting one to watch this gen if MS up their game; focusing supply more on the X would be a good start.

Yup. 

Also starting to wonder if we'll see a digital only X in the nearish future. No point having one now as they're selling everything they can ship and a $400 version would only sell at a larger loss. 

Maybe Holiday 2022 or early 2023...