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Should the ninth generation consoles have been delayed?

No way 24 51.06%
 
Yes, delayed to March 2021 5 10.64%
 
Yes, delayed to June 2021 2 4.26%
 
Yes, delayed to September 2021 3 6.38%
 
Yes, delayed to November 2021 11 23.40%
 
Other 2 4.26%
 
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sundin13 said:

PotentHerbs said:

one if not the most innovative controller of all time

I don't know much about the controller, but what exactly makes it so innovative?

The adaptive triggers.
Otherwise it's a a refinement of every other controller that has come before it.

Definitely not as innovative as the Wii, Kinect, Move, NES, Original Dual Shock and so on.



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sundin13 said:

I don't know much about the controller, but what exactly makes it so innovative?

Adaptive triggers + haptic feedback which adds immersion without a gimmick (IE. the touchpad of the Dualshock 4 or the WiiMote). Its not only the top selling accessory since the PS5 launch, but its praised by consumers, and various video game outlets as well. 

Edit: And its features are not being ignored by third party developers/publishers either.

Last edited by PotentHerbs - on 13 June 2021

Pemalite said:

The adaptive triggers.
Otherwise it's a a refinement of every other controller that has come before it.

Definitely not as innovative as the Wii, Kinect, Move, NES, Original Dual Shock and so on.

Don't forget haptic feedback which is on another level compared to rumble/vibration. I wouldn't consider Kinect (similar to the PS Eye) a controller & the PS Move motion controls were not better than the WiiMote, & the WiiMote is one of the worst controllers I've used lol.

The Dualsense is quite innovative that even with the same "outline" as the Dualshock, it added more flexibility in terms of controls, as well as a layer of immersion. 



My question would be who benefits from them being delayed?

Personally, I don't think either system is worth it atm, so I will be delaying my purchase (even if I didn't have to). But there's enough demand to sell what they're putting out, and if people have a different opinion from me and think it's worth it, then it's their money.

The companies are benefitting and the consumers who can get one are benefitting. The people who can't get one may be frustrated, but even if they built up a warchest of consoles, those people wouldn't get them any sooner.

So, I don't really see who a delay would have benefited.



mutantsushi said:

No way. There isn't any lack of stock. They are moving more consoles than ever before. There is mismatch of supply and demand, but that just prevented them from doing even better, and was in large part due to COVID trend to online sales being more easily gamed by scammers, which doesn't even disturb real supply/demand in long term it just diverts it into scalping profits. Expecting Sony/MS to stockpile EVEN MORE consoles to have on hand before launch is absurd, they already had more than any other launch, that just wasn't a problem and they both have contracts putting them in good position VS every other customer of AMD amidst semiconductor draught. Otherwise COVID has been good for gaming and not a reason to delay anything. If anything a delay would mean launch happening after COVID lockdowns are over and people wanting to do stuff outside and socialize instead of gaming at home, which wouldn't be helpful for console launch. Sony's launch exclusives have been fine, and expecting more nextgen exclusives is again going against precedent where everybody knows to expect cross-gen for first several years, and even if there was a full year or more delay in launch that wouldn't change anything in that regard. Overall I feel the OP's post suffers flaw of just cherry picking whatever seems to gratify it's assumptions rather than actually trying to find tough counterpoints that argue otherwise. Doing so only increases the quality of engagement and increases your credibility, so why waste time in shallow meaningless bullshit?

While I  totally agree with your points regarding the subject, I feel you should refrain from comments like "shallow meaningless bullshit", especially since the OP simply posed a thread question based on his thoughts and asked for opinion, the use of derogatory language only serves to diminish the quality of engagement you seem to champion, and you effectively ended up undermining your own credibility, and detracted from what up to that point what a well thought out synopsis of the subject matter. also there wasn't even a reply from the OP that may have explained such a response.

I hope you don't take any of this personally, since I also have been guilty of resorting to the use of negative and derogatory language instead of constructive critical analysis.

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Well my purchase has been delayed since no stock. If the launch would have been delayed, it would be the same most likely or even harder to get. They're not going to stockpile 20-30 million of the things before selling them. Plus you need all those beta testers to iron out the kinks and see what the most requested features are :)



Wow. IF anything looking at this thread has just showed me how bad Sony launch lineups have been when Sony fans are saying this is the best.



>Both consoles would have more stock available, more launch software (including more next-gen experiences) and more problems ironed out.

The stock issues are a result of demand of chips being incredibly high, across the board. The stock issues aren't a result of supply being abnormally low, it's a result of demand being abnormally high. The PS5 is the fastest selling console ever. People keep saying despite the supply issues, it's selling well. But the reality is closer to it has supply issues because they are selling well. People are getting the cause and effect backwards. And no, it probably wouldn't have been advantageous for Sony and Microsoft to delay their system due to stock issues. They're almost certainly benefitting in some ways due to the high demand of releasing during Covid. The launch software was a selective choice that was made. Delaying it by a year, wouldn't make much of a difference.

A couple of operating system problems definitely could have been sorted out, but those are things that Sony has had difficulties with in the past as it is.

zero129 said:

Wow. IF anything looking at this thread has just showed me how bad Sony launch lineups have been when Sony fans are saying this is the best.

Most consoles have bad launch lineups.

PS3 and PS4 were terrible.

PS3: Genji and Resistance. It had a pretty bad library until like 2009.

PS4: Killzone Shadowfall, Knack, Driveclub, Infamous Second Son were pretty much the big exclusive titles for the first year.

PS5 has already had Spiderman MM, Ratchet and Clank, Returnal, Demon's Souls, Astro's Playroom, Sackboy. With Horizon coming later this year.



In my opinion, they should have just released everything on the PS4 and XB1 and waited for a stronger supply before releasing the Gen 9 consoles. Since the X/S and PS5 are back compact, these titles would still have Gen 9 versions. I honestly don't see the point when almost everything is playable on Gen 8 systems, which is far from a bad thing. People are paying high prices for Gen 9 systems that aren't being push to their limits. We could have waited another year.



PS5 more so, complete rush job. They forgot to add a heat sink on half the ram, goes past 90c, good job Sony only gives 12 months warranty.