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OneTime said:
Jumpin said:

Their actions are not for the company’s interest, and most often don’t result in positive results - other than share value rising.

Interesting that you think that things that aren't in the company's interests increase the share value.  That would seem to be counterintuitive to most investors.

As ever, armchair commenting is easy.  People who think they know better than the stock market really, really should put their money where their mouths are.  Then post a photo from your private yacht in a few years to make us all envious...  

The Stock market is just gambling for the Rich 



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Rab said:
Pemalite said:

Comparing the loss of a job (And wishing them luck in finding another outlet!) to slavery, discrimination and so forth are completely and utterly different issues.

You will need to come back with a more logical argument... Rather than whatever the hell that was.

I'm not making a direct comparison, people really missed the point :p

It's more of what we think of as "normal", once slavery was "normal" now its not (I also mentioned how women were and are treated, but that didn't even get a mention, straight to the most emotive point lol), this situation may seem "normal" so it doesn't garner much attention, but it really is something that needs to change imo

The fact management can be rewarded for a poorly run business and the only the ones that suffer are the employees is pretty bad, surely some of you can see that  

Yes you were making a direct comparison, and that pretty much makes anything else you said irrelevant.



OneTime said:
Rab said:

I'm not making a direct comparison, people really missed the point :p

It's more of what we think of as "normal", once slavery was "normal" now its not (I also mentioned how women were and are treated, but that didn't even get a mention, straight to the most emotive point lol), this situation may seem "normal" so it doesn't garner much attention, but it really is something that needs to change imo

The fact management can be rewarded for a poorly run business and the only the ones that suffer are the employees is pretty bad, surely some of you can see that  

Yes you were making a direct comparison, and that pretty much makes anything else you said irrelevant.

You are wrong about what I meant, your gaslighting 



Rab said:
OneTime said:

Yes you were making a direct comparison, and that pretty much makes anything else you said irrelevant.

You are wrong about what I meant, your gaslighting 

You wrote it.  Everyone here read it.  If you didn't mean it, then apologise and edit it or something.



OneTime said:
Rab said:

You are wrong about what I meant, your gaslighting 

You wrote it.  Everyone here read it.  If you didn't mean item then apologise and edit it or something.

I only compare the part where it was once seen as normal by the majority, as well treating gays, Trans and women as second class citizens was seen as normal 

Hope you understand now, and move back to the topic without all the derails  



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Rab said:
OneTime said:

You wrote it.  Everyone here read it.  If you didn't mean item then apologise and edit it or something.

I only compare the part where it was once seen as normal by the majority, as well as the bad attituded to gays, Trans and women  

So you're saying that if I think a company needs to be able to hire and fire staff, and that it is up the company holders what they do with their own money, then I am in the same league as a slave owner?



OneTime said:
Rab said:

I only compare the part where it was once seen as normal by the majority, as well as the bad attituded to gays, Trans and women  

So you're saying that if I think a company needs to be able to hire and fire staff, and that it is up the company holders what they do with their own money, then I am in the same league as a slave owner?

No, but like a slave owner you may see your behaviour as normal and moral 



Rab said:
OneTime said:

So you're saying that if I think a company needs to be able to hire and fire staff, and that it is up the company holders what they do with their own money, then I am in the same league as a slave owner?

No, but like a slave owner you may see your behaviour as normal and moral 

Whereas your "moral authority" thinks that I am like a racist who hates trans people?  

You need to live in the real world.  It's tough out here, and if a someone gives me a job, I am grateful.  If they feel they can't afford to pay me at a later date, then I understand that they don't need me anymore.  There is no point me staying because they don't have stuff for me to do anymore, and eventually they will just run out of money.

Everything that happens, happens for a logical reason, not because there are some kind of "illuminati rich people" who somehow I never seem to meet in the real world.

If you think you know better, gamble on the stack market and become a rich person, or start your own company and prove everyone else wrong.  That is 100% your right.



OneTime said:
Rab said:

No, but like a slave owner you may see your behaviour as normal and moral 

Whereas your "moral authority" thinks that I am like a racist who hates trans people?  

You need to live in the real world.  It's tough out here, and if a someone gives me a job, I am grateful.  If they feel they can't afford to pay me at a later date, then I understand that they don't need me anymore.  There is no point me staying because they don't have stuff for me to do anymore, and eventually they will just run out of money.

Everything that happens, happens for a logical reason, not because there are some kind of "illuminati rich people" who somehow I never seem to meet in the real world.

If you think you know better, gamble on the stack market and become a rich person, or start your own company and prove everyone else wrong.  That is 100% your right.

Still missing the point

Society makes progress, sometimes things that are thought of as moral and good, may not be seen that way one day, I personally hope that corporations can take a leaf out of some Japanese companies book and treat their employees employment as the highest priority, and that management when performing poorly should take responsibility instead of paying themselves huge bonus's at the expense of people that have little in the way of resources to survive     



OneTime said:
Jumpin said:

Their actions are not for the company’s interest, and most often don’t result in positive results - other than share value rising.

Interesting that you think that things that aren't in the company's interests increase the share value.  That would seem to be counterintuitive to most investors.

It's true though. At the end of the day share values reflect the short term success of the company significantly more than they do the long term. It's definitely not uncommon for people to put off or avoid things that would benefit them in the long term if they'd negatively impact the short term. It's not just companies either, governments are incredibly prone to that too.