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Predict which range Cyberpunk's meta score will fall in?

98-100 4 4.94%
 
95-97 5 6.17%
 
92-94 28 34.57%
 
89-91 21 25.93%
 
86-88 9 11.11%
 
83-85 5 6.17%
 
80-82 3 3.70%
 
Less than 80 6 7.41%
 
Undecided 0 0%
 
Total:81

I don’t get the negative hyperboles and trashing of the game...

Been playing the PS4 Pro version for hours now and only got 2 or 3 very mild bugs. Game has been running pretty smoothly, visuals look very good, gameplay is fun and engaging...

I really don’t get why people are being so negative about it.



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Last edited by Oneeee-Chan!!! - on 12 December 2020

Hynad said:

I don’t get the negative hyperboles and trashing of the game...

Been playing the PS4 Pro version for hours now and only got 2 or 3 very mild bugs. Game has been running pretty smoothly, visuals look very good, gameplay is fun and engaging...

I really don’t get why people are being so negative about it.

Well, the criticism started with the state of base PS4 and XOne versions of the game. And the way CDPR hid those versions as long as possible. Which is in my opinion a valid criticism. But trashing other versions of the game is definitely an exaggeration. While there are bugs and dips, it is nothing we haven't seen before from western developers in big, loved games like Skyrim and Witcher 3.



Astral said:
Hynad said:

I don’t get the negative hyperboles and trashing of the game...

Been playing the PS4 Pro version for hours now and only got 2 or 3 very mild bugs. Game has been running pretty smoothly, visuals look very good, gameplay is fun and engaging...

I really don’t get why people are being so negative about it.

Well, the criticism started with the state of base PS4 and XOne versions of the game. And the way CDPR hid those versions as long as possible. Which is in my opinion a valid criticism. But trashing other versions of the game is definitely an exaggeration. While there are bugs and dips, it is nothing we haven't seen before from western developers in big, loved games like Skyrim and Witcher 3.

First gameplay reveal was in 2018. The mid-gen upgrades for PS4 and Xbox One were both out by then, and the gameplay shown was far and away some of the most technically demanding we'd ever seen. This was always a game being targeted at high-end hardware, mainly PC, and there was no good reason to even expect a current-gen release. Anyone that took that risk with base systems, at least gets a free next-gen upgrade.



Shaunodon said:
Astral said:

Well, the criticism started with the state of base PS4 and XOne versions of the game. And the way CDPR hid those versions as long as possible. Which is in my opinion a valid criticism. But trashing other versions of the game is definitely an exaggeration. While there are bugs and dips, it is nothing we haven't seen before from western developers in big, loved games like Skyrim and Witcher 3.

First gameplay reveal was in 2018. The mid-gen upgrades for PS4 and Xbox One were both out by then, and the gameplay shown was far and away some of the most technically demanding we'd ever seen. This was always a game being targeted at high-end hardware, mainly PC, and there was no good reason to even expect a current-gen release. Anyone that took that risk with base systems, at least gets a free next-gen upgrade.

And that makes it ok somehow? When someone is paying 60$ it is not supposed to be "taking a risk" when we are talking about a product of a respectable company. If the game wasn't meant for current gen consoles then it shouldn't have been released on current gen consoles, it is as simple as that. Base consoles can still run demanding games well enough when optisimed. Games like GTAV, Red Dead2, Ghost of Tsushima.. etc. The free next-gen upgrade is great for those who are willing to get into next gen soon. But it doesn't make the problem go away. People have every right to complain about these practises.


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Shaunodon said:
Astral said:

Well, the criticism started with the state of base PS4 and XOne versions of the game. And the way CDPR hid those versions as long as possible. Which is in my opinion a valid criticism. But trashing other versions of the game is definitely an exaggeration. While there are bugs and dips, it is nothing we haven't seen before from western developers in big, loved games like Skyrim and Witcher 3.

First gameplay reveal was in 2018. The mid-gen upgrades for PS4 and Xbox One were both out by then, and the gameplay shown was far and away some of the most technically demanding we'd ever seen. This was always a game being targeted at high-end hardware, mainly PC, and there was no good reason to even expect a current-gen release. Anyone that took that risk with base systems, at least gets a free next-gen upgrade.

The game play isn't technically demanding at all, the graphics are.

The game wasn't always targeted at high-end hardware, or CDPR flat out lied about it. They specifically stated it was for PS4 and XBox One. That's the reason why people expected it for current gen consoles.
https://www.usgamer.net/articles/cyberpunk-2077-targeting-current-gen-ps4-xbox-one-pc-cd-projekt-red
"The current console generation is what we're aiming for. We are aiming for Xbox One, PlayStation 4, and of course PC as well," Mills told GameInformer.

It's the deceptive PR and hiding the truth as long as possible is what they get the backlash from currently. That and all the other promises, like most advanced open world AI etc which has all been scrapped to get the game out of the door.

What is there is a good RPG like the Witcher 3 that takes place on a large map. Can't really call it open world since there hardly is any open world game play. There's nothing wrong with that as long as you follow the script, yet they led people to believe there would be a living city not much unlike Rockstar outings.

Then there are all the bugs, glitches, crashes etc. It works for plenty people, it also doesn't work at all for a lot of people, and the performance on base consoles, resolution and fps are shameful.

The game was supposed to come out well before PS5 and XSX, and it doesn't even run that well on the mid-gen refreshes that are far in minority.

"At least you get a free next-gen upgrade" is a poor excuse. Just assuming everyone is going to upgrade to the same console, or can you run a ps4 copy on series x or PC?



Shaunodon said:
Astral said:

Well, the criticism started with the state of base PS4 and XOne versions of the game. And the way CDPR hid those versions as long as possible. Which is in my opinion a valid criticism. But trashing other versions of the game is definitely an exaggeration. While there are bugs and dips, it is nothing we haven't seen before from western developers in big, loved games like Skyrim and Witcher 3.

First gameplay reveal was in 2018. The mid-gen upgrades for PS4 and Xbox One were both out by then, and the gameplay shown was far and away some of the most technically demanding we'd ever seen. This was always a game being targeted at high-end hardware, mainly PC, and there was no good reason to even expect a current-gen release. Anyone that took that risk with base systems, at least gets a free next-gen upgrade.

The game was announced over 8 years ago and say Xbox One and PS4 on the cover. You play them in BC using X1 and PS4 code on the new systems...

Who are you trying to kid?

Look, the game is great, I preordered it and am loving it too but people pretending that the game announced in May 2012 shouldn't run at least at a decent level on last gen hardware that was likely target spec for most of development are full of it and need to realise, along with the obvious hiding of last gen gameplay, this is some shady, almost EA tier bullshit.



ironmanDX said:
Shaunodon said:

First gameplay reveal was in 2018. The mid-gen upgrades for PS4 and Xbox One were both out by then, and the gameplay shown was far and away some of the most technically demanding we'd ever seen. This was always a game being targeted at high-end hardware, mainly PC, and there was no good reason to even expect a current-gen release. Anyone that took that risk with base systems, at least gets a free next-gen upgrade.

The game was announced over 8 years ago and say Xbox One and PS4 on the cover. You play them in BC using X1 and PS4 code on the new systems...

Who are you trying to kid?

Look, the game is great, I preordered it and am loving it too but people pretending that the game announced in May 2012 shouldn't run at least at a decent level on last gen hardware that was likely target spec for most of development are full of it and need to realise, along with the obvious hiding of last gen gameplay, this is some shady, almost EA tier bullshit.

Why should it matter when it was announced? Last time I checked, neither The Last Guardian or Final Fanatasy (XV) Versus XIII are playable on PS3.

This never looked like a game that would be fully capable of running on base PS4 or Xbox One without severe cutbacks and/or issues. If people saw all the footage and still pre-ordered believing otherwise (especially after the delays), at least some of that responsibility is on them.

If it was so obvious they were hiding the gameplay on base systems, why would those owners not think something was wrong already? The fact CDPR intentionally only posted gameplay for PS4 Pro and Xbox One X up, meant they weren't even trying to pretend otherwise. Should they also put a big sticker on every copy saying, 'buy for base systems at your own risk'?

All the info they needed was there, and all they needed was to hold off a week or two to know for sure.



Shaunodon said:
ironmanDX said:

The game was announced over 8 years ago and say Xbox One and PS4 on the cover. You play them in BC using X1 and PS4 code on the new systems...

Who are you trying to kid?

Look, the game is great, I preordered it and am loving it too but people pretending that the game announced in May 2012 shouldn't run at least at a decent level on last gen hardware that was likely target spec for most of development are full of it and need to realise, along with the obvious hiding of last gen gameplay, this is some shady, almost EA tier bullshit.

Why should it matter when it was announced? Last time I checked, neither The Last Guardian or Final Fanatasy (XV) Versus XIII are playable on PS3.

This never looked like a game that would be fully capable of running on base PS4 or Xbox One without severe cutbacks and/or issues. If people saw all the footage and still pre-ordered believing otherwise (especially after the delays), at least some of that responsibility is on them.

If it was so obvious they were hiding the gameplay on base systems, why would those owners not think something was wrong already? The fact CDPR intentionally only posted gameplay for PS4 Pro and Xbox One X up, meant they weren't even trying to pretend otherwise. Should they also put a big sticker on every copy saying, 'buy for base systems at your own risk'?

All the info they needed was there, and all they needed was to hold off a week or two to know for sure.

Well, what if ff15 and last guardian were cross gen and ran 15-20fps at launch with bugs and glitches? Would you defend those games too? 

Cyberpunk 2077 is literally, ONLY, a ps4 and X1 console game at retail for months... How are people "supposed" to know that they are mean to buy it for an enhanced or next generation system... The owners of enhanced or next generation systems are a tiny minority compared to the base consoles.

Lmao at the sticker. 



The game will be ironed out over time just like The Witcher 3 was, with frequent updates which will probably take many of the user feedback into account, and those who get it for a last gen console will get to upgrade for free when they get the respective new gen console...

I don’t see how the situation is as bad as people pretend. Sure, the game has issues (even though I haven’t had anything severe happening on my end so far) but I don’t see how those issues are deserving of that much backlash compared to other games before it.

Last edited by Hynad - on 13 December 2020