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Forums - Sales Discussion - Will Astro's Playroom outsell Wii Sports and become the highest selling console exclusive?

BraLoD said:
peachbuggy said:

Lol! All i need to say is, read this thread, be enlightened about Wii Sports, open your eyes. It seems that the main thing you were completely ill-informed about was the worldwide phenomenon that wii sports was and possibly still is. Yet you are still trying to compare it with equality to a free app that likely most ps5 consumers won't even know about? Lol indeed!

Why do I need to "open my eyes" to a game that was a mandatory sale with a console being equal a game that is a mandatory sale to another console?

It's that simple.

As I told someone else, you can call Wii Sports a phenomenom as much as you like, the fact it sold as a mandatory part of the Wii outside of Japan is the only fact that matters to the point I'm making.

I'm not the one picking up straws here.

As I pointed out in my other post, there is clear and convincing evidence that Wii Sports would be one of the top selling games ever with or without bundling. To ignore the evidence that most, people who owned Wii Sports wanted to own Wii Sports is to be willfully ignorant. 

The point of comparing sales is to compare relative success of games. Aside from potentially scoring a point on a technicality for Sony fans, there's no logical reason for comparison. The fact that two games are both bundled does not preclude logical unbiased individuals from concluding that Wii Sports' success will absolutely dwarf that of Astro's Playroom, rendering a comparison pointless. Up to you if you're going to be a part of that group.

Last edited by JWeinCom - on 21 September 2020

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BraLoD said:
JWeinCom said:

As I pointed out in my other post, there is clear and convincing evidence that Wii Sports would be one of the top selling games ever with or without bundling. To ignore the evidence that most, people who owned Wii Sports wanted to own Wii Sports is to be willfully ignorant. 

The point of comparing sales is to compare relative success of games. Aside from potentially scoring a point on a technicality for Sony fans, there's no logical reason for comparison. The fact that two games are both bundled does not preclude logical unbiased individuals from concluding that Wii Sports' success will absolutely dwarf that of Astro's Playroom, rendering a comparison pointless. Up to you if you're going to be a part of that group.

The fact you have to use the word "would" means it did not happen.

That's exactly what this is about, you can imagine whatever you like, reality is the only thing that matters, and in reality both Wii Sports and Astro's Playroom are mandatory games tied to a hardware purchase.

I don't need to score any points for Sony, but it seems you clearly need to score them for Nintendo when you are using opinion against facts.

It's ok, I never said Wii Sports wasn't important of anything of the sort, that's on people trying to pick straws against a simple hard could fact: both are mandatory sales tied with hardware purchases, that's exactly what they are.

No, I actually presented you with a ton of facts. You just ignored them. I had a long post written up, but since the last one I wrote was completely ignored, I'll just give you one fact.

You want to throw out all bundled sales? Fine. All mandatory sales, don't count, whatever. Wii Sports still sold over 10 million copies that were not bundled which is a fact. So, unless Astro's Playroom gets unbundled at some point and still sells that many copies, Wii Sports was a better selling exclusive. 

As pointless as the comparison would be, the only way Astro's Playroom would come out on top would be by including bundled sales. Also since bundled sales don't count, Astro's Playroom will most likely go down as the worst selling exclusive in gaming history, and Wii Sports will still probably comfortably be in the top 20 or 30 depending on how you count all the Pokemon SKUs.

Last edited by JWeinCom - on 22 September 2020

If it is pre-installed (as in no disc), not available anywhere on a physical disc, and it is just a bundle, then in my eyes it doesn't count. If it is sold separately for an actual price (not free), anywhere, then I say all of them can count

Last edited by badskywalker - on 21 September 2020

badskywalker said:

If it is pre-installed (as in no disc), not available anywhere on a physical disc, and it is just a bundle, then in my eyes it doesn't count. If it is sold separately for an actual price (not free), anywhere, then I say all of them can count

This is true.