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BraLoD said:
JWeinCom said:

As I pointed out in my other post, there is clear and convincing evidence that Wii Sports would be one of the top selling games ever with or without bundling. To ignore the evidence that most, people who owned Wii Sports wanted to own Wii Sports is to be willfully ignorant. 

The point of comparing sales is to compare relative success of games. Aside from potentially scoring a point on a technicality for Sony fans, there's no logical reason for comparison. The fact that two games are both bundled does not preclude logical unbiased individuals from concluding that Wii Sports' success will absolutely dwarf that of Astro's Playroom, rendering a comparison pointless. Up to you if you're going to be a part of that group.

The fact you have to use the word "would" means it did not happen.

That's exactly what this is about, you can imagine whatever you like, reality is the only thing that matters, and in reality both Wii Sports and Astro's Playroom are mandatory games tied to a hardware purchase.

I don't need to score any points for Sony, but it seems you clearly need to score them for Nintendo when you are using opinion against facts.

It's ok, I never said Wii Sports wasn't important of anything of the sort, that's on people trying to pick straws against a simple hard could fact: both are mandatory sales tied with hardware purchases, that's exactly what they are.

No, I actually presented you with a ton of facts. You just ignored them. I had a long post written up, but since the last one I wrote was completely ignored, I'll just give you one fact.

You want to throw out all bundled sales? Fine. All mandatory sales, don't count, whatever. Wii Sports still sold over 10 million copies that were not bundled which is a fact. So, unless Astro's Playroom gets unbundled at some point and still sells that many copies, Wii Sports was a better selling exclusive. 

As pointless as the comparison would be, the only way Astro's Playroom would come out on top would be by including bundled sales. Also since bundled sales don't count, Astro's Playroom will most likely go down as the worst selling exclusive in gaming history, and Wii Sports will still probably comfortably be in the top 20 or 30 depending on how you count all the Pokemon SKUs.

Last edited by JWeinCom - on 22 September 2020