Here is an interesting question:
Will the Series S run Xbox One games in "enhanced One X" mode?
If the rumors are correct, and the GPU on the series S is only 4 TFLOPS, it probably won't. That is kind of a let down.
So it's $25 per month for the brand new console and over 200 games out of the box? Sign me in. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the game pass ultimate is $15 per month, which means, the console (in this case) is $10 ... x 24 months = $240, $60 cheaper than MSRP.
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shikamaru317 said:
I'm kind of doubtful the price would be that high. You can buy a Seagate NVMe SSD for PC with stats that are about on par with the internal SSD in Series X for $150 currently on Amazon, and MS partnered with Seagate to make their SSD cartridges. There will be some extra mark-up for sure due to the proprietary cartridge tech and profit margin, but $70 mark-up? Doubtful, especially since the price of SSD's with specs on par with the Series X SSD are expected to go down later this year as the latest, fastest SSD models release. I'll be shocked if a 1 TB cartridge costs more than $180 later this year personally. If they are $220 on release that is disappointing, but the pricing should go down over time as SSD costs continue to decrease, a 1 TB cartridge will eventually be affordable in a year or two. But even if it does cost $220 to add 1 TB to Xbox Series, we can't forget that PS5's SSD isn't much bigger than Series S at 825 GB, and expanding PS5's storage will be far more expensive since Sony is only allowing SSD's that are as fast as the internal SSD. The internal SSD in PS5 is twice as fast as the one in Xbox Series leading to increased retail cost, you're currently looking at $300+ to add 1 TB to PS5 I'm pretty sure (though Sony has yet to release official guidelines on what retail SSD's will be compatible with the PS5 so I can't be 100% sure of that). |
No i dont think so. While sony has not clarified, they specifically said to play a ps5 game you need an ssd of 7GBs, but if you need just more storage you can probably add what ever ssd fits and then just transfer over games. It should only be seconds worth. So you get the benefit of not having a proprietary cartridge, wich will allow for competitive prices and the benefits of not needing it for gameplay jsut storage, wich could also lower prices more. So im gona go with sony will have more affordable expansions, while still offering better performance.
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twintail said:
You can use any SSD you want for the PS5. But I believe that it needs to be at least 7Gbs, and it depends on whether it is compatible with the PS5. Sony said they will be doing continual compatibility tests with SSDs. But you don't need a proprietary one. |
They said to play games directly from ssd, but you should be able to put anything that fits no matter the speed if you are just using for storage. Just swap as needed. It will be a lot cheaper to add storage.
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| hinch said: Xbox SSD Expansion Card price might have got leaked - $219 So thats how they're making back some of the money :P But yeah don't cheap out people.. get the XSX if you want a new Xbox. Its false economy going for entry level console. |
Not at all.
Lots of people's gaming habits don't necessitate 8 games installed on the device at once. Most people probably won't buy more than 4 AAA games in one year let alone play more than 4 games at the same time.
For those who want amble storage space, they'll probably be inclined to expand their storage regardless of whether its on Series S or X. In which case they'll still be making a $199 saving if 1.5TF suites them well.
Maybe if you're super casual or don't care for time. I still don't think its a great idea linking a console with Game Pass with 500GB storage. Or like you said play only one or two games at a time and have that installed. You'll be whipping out the hard drive for cold storage in no time. QoL is worth it for the extra $200, among other things. Its worth weighing in your options before going in.
My 2TB in my PS4 is ram full and I still have issues with space. I swapped out the storage as soon as I could.
500GB was so small in 2013 and in 2020 its tiny. Hell, even 825GB and 1TB is small.
| hinch said: Maybe if you're super casual or don't care for time. I still don't think its a great idea linking a console with Game Pass with 500GB storage. Or like you said play only one or two games at a time and have that installed. You'll be whipping out the hard drive for cold storage in no time. QoL is worth it for the extra $200, among other things. Its worth weighing in your options before going in. |
Maybe. I also swaped for a 2TB as soon as I got my ps4 and yes it filled up after a bit, but by then I had so many games I dont even think of that deleting a bunch and making room was not even a second of consideration that if I would play any of them again. I would agree with you with the 512GB and maybe 1TB. If I have very few games they will be fresher on my mind I would would think maybe I will play them again. So it really depends on how many games they can really fit. Sony said that with ssd's games are gona be smaller due to duplicating accets on HDD's, but that we are gona start seing it after a couple of years when crosgen is done. but if 825GB-1TB can fit 10-20 games in that scenario, I think gamers will be fine for a good while to where removing really old games is no longer an issue.
But I would agree with you that for the SSD alone I would spend that extra money for the full ps5 or series x. Add to that the power gap. This console just dosent make sense to me.
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| ViktorBKK said: Here is an interesting question: Will the Series S run Xbox One games in "enhanced One X" mode? If the rumors are correct, and the GPU on the series S is only 4 TFLOPS, it probably won't. That is kind of a let down. |
4TF RDNA 2 > 6TF GCN. The Series S should be fine in this regard.
$299 is surely a nice price point, but the question is.. We are talking about to enter the next-gen era with a new console, so why I should buy a discless XS when for only $50-$100 more I could get a full next-gen experience with a not-limited (in hardware) discless PS5? This new gen will last 5-7 years and I don't think XS will be able to survive as is for the entire generation considering the quality that games will reach in about 2-3 years.
.. If in the middle of 90s you had moved to the next-gen, would have you chosen the 32X over the Sega Saturn?
32X over the Saturn is irrelevant because the 32X wasn't meant to be a new generation, it was meant to just extend the life of the Genesis and offer people an ability to play more demanding games. It was more like the "Genesis Pro" except instead of a whole new console, Sega just released an add-on. Hell IIRC some of its games even required the SegaCD add-on as well to work. Not comparable to a new next gen console that can play all of the games a PS5 or XSX can play, just at 1080-1440p resolution. It has a fast SSD, it has the next gen CPU.
Lots of people want price and their mainstream CoD/2k/GTA/FIFA. That's what catapulted 360 forward two gens ago and PS4 this gen. I don't know what the no disc design will mean for Series S but it will appeal to a lot of people. There's a lot of talk about a huge GamePass addition, we'll see if that ends up being legit or not.
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