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curl-6 on 21 September 2020
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PS4 vs Wii in the US Sales Comparison - PS4 Closes Gap in August 2020

This monthly series compares the aligned US sales of the PlayStation 4 and Nintendo Wii.

PlayStation 4 Vs. Wii US:

Gap change in latest month: 171,089 - PS4

Gap change over last 12 months: 2,498,569 - PS4

Total Lead: 7,160,792

PlayStation 4 Total Sales: 33,982,521

Wii Total Sales: 41,143,313

August 2020 is the 82nd month that the PlayStation 4 has been available for in the US. During the latest month, the gap grew in favor of the PlayStation 4 when compared with the Nintendo Wii during the same timeframe. The PlayStation 4 has caught up to the Wii by 171,089 units and in the last 12 months outsold the Wii by 2.50 million units. The Wii currently leads by 7.16 million units.

Both consoles launched in November in the US. The Wii launched in November 2006, while the PlayStation 4 launched in November 2013. This does mean the holidays for the two consoles do lineup.

The 82nd month for the PlayStation 4 is August 2020, while for the Wii it is August 2013. The PlayStation 4 has sold 33.98 million units, while the Wii sold 41.14 million units during the same timeframe.

The Wii sold units 41.70 million lifetime in the US, therefore the PlayStation 4 needs to sell another 7.72 million units to catch up to the lifetime sales of the Wii.

Still all comes down to how Sony handle PS4 post-replacement. It's a big hill to climb.

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curl-6 on 22 September 2020
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Switch vs 3DS and Wii U in the US Sales Comparison - Switch Lead Grows in August 2020

This monthly series compares the aligned US Nintendo Switch sales with the combined Nintendo 3DS and Nintendo Wii U sales.

Switch Vs. 3DS and Wii U USA:

Gap change in latest month: 380,526 - Switch

Gap change over last 12 months: 3,759,583 - Switch

Total Lead: 3,539,837 - Switch

Switch Total Sales: 21,428,833

3DS and Wii U Total Sales: 17,888,996

August 2020 is the 42nd month that the Nintendo Switch has been available for in the US. During the latest month, the gap grew in favor of the Switch when compared to the combined sales of the 3DS and Wii U during the same timeframe by 380,526 units. In the last 12 months, the gap has grown in favor of the Switch by 3.76 million units. The Switch is currently ahead of the 3DS and Wii U by 3.54 million units.

The 3DS launched in March 2011 in the US and the Wii U launched in November 2012, while the Nintendo Switch launched in March 2017. The holiday periods between the Switch and 3DS lineup, however, the Wii U holiday is offset from the Switch.

The 42nd month for the Nintendo Switch is August 2020, for the Nintendo 3DS it is August 2014 and for the Wii U it is April 2016. The Switch has sold 21.43 million units, while the 3DS and Wii U have sold 17.89 million units during the same timeframe. The 3DS and Wii U did not reach current Switch sales until month 57, when they sold a combined 21.56 million units.

The 3DS and Wii U have sold a combined 29.19 million units in the US. The Switch is currently 7.76 million units behind. The Wii U has been off the market for a few years, while the 3DS is still on the market. 3DS production has ended, however, the handheld is still selling around 1,000 units per week.

As with globally, this is just a matter of time now. Switch in inherited not just the Wii U and 3DS audience but a whole swathe of customers for whom neither predecessor was appealing.



JSG87 on 23 September 2020
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Switch vs 3DS and Wii U in the US Sales Comparison - Switch Lead Grows in August 2020

This monthly series compares the aligned US Nintendo Switch sales with the combined Nintendo 3DS and Nintendo Wii U sales.

Switch Vs. 3DS and Wii U USA:

Gap change in latest month: 380,526 - Switch

Gap change over last 12 months: 3,759,583 - Switch

Total Lead: 3,539,837 - Switch

Switch Total Sales: 21,428,833

3DS and Wii U Total Sales: 17,888,996

August 2020 is the 42nd month that the Nintendo Switch has been available for in the US. During the latest month, the gap grew in favor of the Switch when compared to the combined sales of the 3DS and Wii U during the same timeframe by 380,526 units. In the last 12 months, the gap has grown in favor of the Switch by 3.76 million units. The Switch is currently ahead of the 3DS and Wii U by 3.54 million units.

The 3DS launched in March 2011 in the US and the Wii U launched in November 2012, while the Nintendo Switch launched in March 2017. The holiday periods between the Switch and 3DS lineup, however, the Wii U holiday is offset from the Switch.

The 42nd month for the Nintendo Switch is August 2020, for the Nintendo 3DS it is August 2014 and for the Wii U it is April 2016. The Switch has sold 21.43 million units, while the 3DS and Wii U have sold 17.89 million units during the same timeframe. The 3DS and Wii U did not reach current Switch sales until month 57, when they sold a combined 21.56 million units.

The 3DS and Wii U have sold a combined 29.19 million units in the US. The Switch is currently 7.76 million units behind. The Wii U has been off the market for a few years, while the 3DS is still on the market. 3DS production has ended, however, the handheld is still selling around 1,000 units per week.

As with globally, this is just a matter of time now. Switch in inherited not just the Wii U and 3DS audience but a whole swathe of customers for whom neither predecessor was appealing.

I am one of those people.



curl-6 on 23 September 2020
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Switch vs Xbox One in the US Sales Comparison - Switch Closes the Gap in August 2020

This monthly series compares the lifetime US sales of the Nintendo Switch and Xbox One.

Switch Vs. Xbox One US:

Gap change in latest month: 458,699 - Switch

Gap change over last 12 months: 5,532,212 - Switch

Total Lead: 7,291,029 - Xbox One

Switch Total Sales: 21,428,833

Xbox One Total Sales: 28,719,862

August 2020 is the 42nd month that the Nintendo Switch has been available for in the US. During the latest month, the gap shrunk in favor of the Switch by 458,699 units when compared to the Xbox One. In the last 12 months, the Switch has caught up to the lifetime sales of the Xbox One in the US by 5.53 million units. The Switch is currently 7.29 million units behind the Xbox One in the US.

The Xbox One launched in November 2013, while the Nintendo Switch launched worldwide in March 2017. The Switch has sold 21.43 million units, while the Xbox One has sold 28.72 million units.

If you were to align the launches of the two consoles in the US the Switch would be ahead by 4.77 million units, as the Xbox One had sold 16.66 million units through 42 months.

Done deal by the end of the next year at this rate, possibly even by this time next year.



Pyro as Bill on 26 September 2020

Is it still too early to start asking for my Switch v PS4 bets to be paid?



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curl-6 on 26 September 2020
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Switch vs Wii Sales Comparison in the US - Switch Closes the Gap in August 2020

This monthly series compares the aligned US sales of the Nintendo Switch and the Nintendo Wii.

Switch Vs. Wii US:

Gap change in latest month: 151,408 - Switch

Gap change over last 12 months: 93,557 - Switch

Total Lead: 6,918,032 - Wii

Switch Total Sales: 21,428,833

Wii Total Sales: 28,346,865

August 2020 is the 42nd month that the Nintendo Switch has been available for in the US. During the latest month, the Switch caught up to the Wii when you align the launches by 151,408 units. In the last 12 months, the Switch has outsold the Wii by 93,557 units. The Wii is currently ahead of the Switch by 6.92 million units.

The Wii launched in November 2006, while the Nintendo Switch launched in March 2017. Therefore, the holiday periods for the two consoles do not lineup, which is why there are big increases and decreases.

The 42nd month for the Nintendo Switch is August 2020 and for the Wii it is April 2010. The Switch has sold 21.43 million units, while the Wii sold 28.35 million units during the same timeframe.

The Wii sold 41.70 million units in the US during its lifetime. The Switch needs to sell another 20.27 million units to outsell the Wii.

This one will likely go down as a classic case of the tortoise and the hare. The Switch is significantly less frontloaded than the Wii, and while it has a long way to go to catch up, Wii will start to slow down considerably once it passes its 2010 holiday period.

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The_Liquid_Laser on 27 September 2020

PS4 is not going to sell another 41m units. It's already near its last legs. This race is already decided for the DS.



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curl-6 on 27 September 2020

Yeah this is one uphill battle that I just don't think PS4 has the stamina for.
41 million is like two of PS4's peak years, and it's being replaced in a month and a half.



curl-6 on 28 September 2020
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Yeah this is one uphill battle that I just don't think PS4 has the stamina for.
41 million is like two of PS4's peak years, and it's being replaced in a month and a half.

then again, I don't think anyone was anticipating in 2006 that PS2 was going on to sell another ~50M more units

but with PS2 sony did the right thing, did a price cut, continue to provide full support and very good marketing even with PS3 out on the market

I bet that if PS4 was discounted to 199$ last year, it would have the stamina to reach at least 140M lifetime, and possibly 150M with another one cut to 149$ but they didn't :( ...

I think another big factor in PS2's colossal sales was that PS3 (and 360 as a competitor) were slow out of the gate so a lot of folks saw no reason to upgrade any time soon and kept buying PS2s well into Gen 7. I think PS5 by contrast will be off to a fast start.



The_Liquid_Laser on 29 September 2020
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Switch vs PS3 Sales Comparison in Europe - Switch Lead Grows in August 2020

This monthly series compares the aligned European sales of the Nintendo Switch and the PlayStation 3.

Switch Vs. PS3 Europe:

Gap change in latest month: 121,015 - Switch

Gap change over last 12 months: 898,900 - Switch

Total Lead: 1,449,592 - Switch

Switch Total Sales: 16,698,636

PS3 Total Sales: 15,249,044

August 2020 is the 42nd month that the Nintendo Switch has been available for in Europe. During the latest month, the Switch grew its lead by 121,015 units when you align the launches of it with the PlayStation 3. In the last 12 months, the Switch has outsold the PlayStation 3 by 898,900 units. The Switch is currently ahead of the PlayStation 3 by 1.45 million units.

The PlayStation 3 launched in Europe in March 2007, while the Nintendo Switch launched in March 2017. Therefore, the holiday periods for the two consoles do lineup.

The 42nd month for the Nintendo Switch in Europe is August 2020 and for the PlayStation 3 it is August 2010. The Switch has sold 16.70 million units, while the PlayStation 3 has sold 15.25 million units during the same timeframe. The PlayStation 3 did not reach current Switch sales until month 45.

The PlayStation 3 sold 34.99 million units in Europe during its lifetime. The Switch needs to sell another 18.29 million units to catch up to the lifetime sales of the PlayStation 3.

This was actually really close for a long time.  Obviously Switch got a boost from COVID recently.  Still, I wouldn't be surprised if Switch widens its lead during the holidays.



curl-6 bet me that PS5 + X|S sales would reach 56m before year end 2023 and he was right.
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My Threads:
Master Thread, Game of the Year/Decade
Switch Will Be #1 All Time
Zelda Will Outsell Mario (Achieved)
How Much Will MH Rise sell?
My Bet With Metallox