"No fatalities"

The game epically Phails.

Well they really one-upped Brawl there.. but still it won't be nearly successful.. MK's best days are far behind it..

I don't care about the mortal combat part anymore,  I just want to know who would really win in a fight, batman or superman.

If they had a fighting engine worth a crap, they wouldn't need fatalities, chess, or out of combat tomfoolery to sell their games.

Maybe they will create one for this title.

My rose comment was meant to illustrate a few things:


This game should have been a new IP from Midway, with DC characters. That would have done away with the need or want for fatalities.

However, then you are stuck without MK characters.


If you add your MK characters, you are stigmatized into the old gimmicky fighter, one trick pony of using fatalities.



If you gave the DC characters to, say, Namco, they would probably just add them into Soul Calibur.


I wish that Namco made Batman a playable character in Soul Calibur.


Know this, however, the SC engine itself isn't much better than the last 3d MK game. The SC engine is largely unchanged from its Dreamcast version, when the game was largely reliant on 8 way run for depth. It's no counting frames game, like say, Tekken, and superiority in Soul Calibur is much more depenant on quick reflexes and knowledge of the controller, than is Tekken or Virtua Fighter.

Another lame Soul Calibur "depth" addition is parry, which is so impossibe and unpredictabe to time correctly, and its a stark contrast to the buttonmashing and non-balanced tier gameplay found elsewhere.


Don't take this to mean SC is a shallow game. It's simply a button masher by definition, as in a character pressing the buttons with some form of knowledge about what those buttons do, can get lucky and score a victory from time to time.

However, like with any game, the hardcore player will eventually emerge as a much more consistant victor.

The problem lies in the unpredictability inherant to that engine. For instance, a flat out button masher stands a better chance against me, than an advanced player, simply because the advanced player is much easier to predict.


Thus, Tekken remains my favorite engine, and I also feel each individual Tekken game has advantages over its SC counterpart, besides having a deeper fighting engine.


Still, even though Deadly Alliance did have a deeper fighting engine than Soul Calibur 2, it was still a far inferior game, due to several mis-steps in development. Weapons left characters like Shang Tsung largely overpowered, as the game attempted to create characters for advanced players by limiting the move-sets, these character had no real advantages when you learned their moves, they would never be as strong as Tsung, or even close. The poor-mans balancing act.


However the game always looked cool, and was very grewsomely visceral, and therefore, racked up some esteem as a nostalga title amongst the great unwashed.


I expect Batman to sell more copies of this game than MK, though, and so, in the end, fatalities are but a small part of a much bigger and more important picture, which is engine, presentation, depth, and balance.

Perhaps you should read the The Dark Knight Returns graphic novel penned by Frank Miller.

That fight actually happens, and it's THE greatest graphic novel in history, period.

Batman, old and decrepit, comes back for one last run at the Joker.

Spoilers:

Batman kills the Joker, and the president orders him hunted down by a still young superman.

Batman uses an Iron suit to protect himself long enough to allow his friend, Green Arrow(I think it was him) to shoot superman with an exploding arrow made of kryptonite.

Batman, old, dies of a heart attack. His last words to Clark Kent:

"Always remember. In your most private moments. My hand on your throat."

Yeah, Batman coulda killed Superman, but he let him live.

Still, it was all a trick. Batman faked his own death to elude superman without killing him. He had the last Robbin(a cute young chick he was probably having sex with) dig him up a few days later. Superman figured it out, but didn't push the matter, because of his love, respect, and fear for Batman.

So yeah, Batman kicks the everloving shit out of Superman every time the fought. It's an obvious victory. Brain wins out over brawn everytime. Superman has a weakness, it's too easily exploited.

You seen Sin City? In TDKR, batman is more killing, more of a badass, than all the characters in that movie, combined. 

Interesting fact. You know why batman had a yellow bat over his chest?

It's a target. That's where he puts the brunt of his body armor. If your gonna shoot him, he wants you to aim for the yellow, so it'll hit the armor underneath and leave him unscathed.

yeah they're taking a page from soul caliber now
:/

 Of course Superman would win, batman is only human!

All of these games have their super, uber-powered moves (MK is more gory, but it's still similar)

Tekken has supermoves.

Brawl has Final Smashes.

MvC has moves that fill up the entire screen when you fill up your special gauge, and take half your opponent's life bar.

Not to mention, MK was always inferior to Street Fighter and others, with the fatalities being the big redeeming factor.  How can MK 'Kombat' these other franchises without a big gimmick like this?

Not saying it won't be good, but until we hear more, it doesn't look like anything special to me.

I'm only buying this if I can rip Aquaman's head off, but it lookslike I can't do that, so...

@Preferences: Batman won in the Batman-Superman Movie. Kryptonite FTW!