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Apple has enough money to afford good lawyers and win a reasonable case for them.



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Epic will lose, why people defending them is funny. Not their software, not their store. Buy crummy Android if you have a problem.



RolStoppable said:
Apple has enough money to afford good lawyers and win a reasonable case for them.

Google probably happy they dont have this issue.
And if Apple wins, it might mean they damage their brand abit.
Ei. users next phones could be androids.

Apple loses even if they win.
This isnt a great look for them, comeing right ontop of the backlash from gamepass also not being allowed.



Random_Matt said:
Epic will lose, why people defending them is funny. Not their software, not their store. Buy crummy Android if you have a problem.

Fortnite is their software, the in-game sales are in their store... And that is why apple is pissed, because they aren`t using apple store to give money to apple for something apple didn`t do. Just like government and taxes, they just think they are entitled to a cut of your pay for reasons.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Random_Matt said:
Epic will lose, why people defending them is funny. Not their software, not their store. Buy crummy Android if you have a problem.

Maybe... the phone if bought is urs though.
When you bought it, you assumed it could do certain things.

Whos to say that apple users, never antisipated that they could run into a issue like this?
(ei. their favorite game being removed by apple, because of greed)

This could be the first lawsuit of many.
What do they call those? class action lawsuits? apple could probably face one of those if it beats epics, by phone owners.



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JRPGfan said:
RolStoppable said:
Apple has enough money to afford good lawyers and win a reasonable case for them.

Google probably happy they dont have this issue.
And if Apple wins, it might mean they damage their brand abit.
Ei. users next phones could be androids.

Apple loses even if they win.
This isnt a great look for them, comeing right ontop of the backlash from gamepass also not being allowed.

How would that damage Apple's brand? The people who play Fortnite will pay the same amount for microtransactions as they did before if Apple wins the case.



Legend11 correctly predicted that GTA IV (360+PS3) would outsell SSBB. I was wrong.

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DonFerrari said:
Random_Matt said:
Epic will lose, why people defending them is funny. Not their software, not their store. Buy crummy Android if you have a problem.

Fortnite is their software, the in-game sales are in their store... And that is why apple is pissed, because they aren`t using apple store to give money to apple for something apple didn`t do. Just like government and taxes, they just think they are entitled to a cut of your pay for reasons.

Ah, gotcha. Thanks for clearing up.



RolStoppable said:
JRPGfan said:

Google probably happy they dont have this issue.
And if Apple wins, it might mean they damage their brand abit.
Ei. users next phones could be androids.

Apple loses even if they win.
This isnt a great look for them, comeing right ontop of the backlash from gamepass also not being allowed.

How would that damage Apple's brand? The people who play Fortnite will pay the same amount for microtransactions as they did before if Apple wins the case.

I think they actually lowered the ingame prices on the microtransactions (ei. passed on the saveings, they wouldnt be paying apple, onto the end users).

Also, its not a matter of "they will pay the same as before".
Its now a matter of, "I cannot play fornite on my phone anymore" for iphone users (apple removed it from store, and made it so it cannot connect to servers).



Random_Matt said:
DonFerrari said:

Fortnite is their software, the in-game sales are in their store... And that is why apple is pissed, because they aren`t using apple store to give money to apple for something apple didn`t do. Just like government and taxes, they just think they are entitled to a cut of your pay for reasons.

Ah, gotcha. Thanks for clearing up.

Apple banned fortnite for it making a change to their sw for allow purchase inside the game and that way apple wouldn`t get a cut. But apple dressed it as if they were protecting users.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Conflicted...

I dislike Apple and Epic almost equally.

I do want some of Apple's app store policies to change, however, Epic will almost certainly lose this lawsuit, legally I don't see how Apple did anything wrong, they have a ToS, which Epic broke, it's as simple as that.

I'd rather Epic worked with EU on an antitrust against Apple to try to change some of their store policies because that is honestly the only way Apple is going to change, they will likely win the lawsuit Epic has filed against them and they won't really give a crap about angry Fortnite users when they continue being one of the richest companies in the world.

I also really don't like how Epic is essentially doing a "Gamers Rise Up" with it's fanbase, it feels wrong and kinda fucked up, Epic is basically setting attack dogs in the form of gamers against companies they have a disagreement with, bunch of angry rabid fans will not really help anything, settle it in the courts.

Imagine Epic having a disagreement with Sony, Nintendo or Microsoft, no matter how small and thus they set their fanbase on them, it's a pretty shitty tactic.

Ngl the whole thing is pretty funny though, both companies suck, Android is probably loving it, I still think only EU will change Apple so let Apple/Epic have their little fight, won't really change much I don't think, both companies suck but I hope Apple changes some policies.