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Do you like the next gen Box art?

PS5 is better 19 33.33%
 
XSX is better 16 28.07%
 
Both are meh.. 22 38.60%
 
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padib said:
Metallox said:
Ok, I got confused here, so excuse my ignorance here, please. From what I can tell, the disc included in this new 'Xbox' case will be able to run on the Series X, Lockhart and One without any issues of compatibility? Won't there be separate discs for each console from now on?

1 single disc from now on for all supported platforms.

So basically just like a PS4 disc.



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Metallox said:
Ok, I got confused here, so excuse my ignorance here, please. From what I can tell, the disc included in this new 'Xbox' case will be able to run on the Series X, Lockhart and One without any issues of compatibility? Won't there be separate discs for each console from now on?

I don't see Series S mentioned on the cover, so that console probably won't have an optical drive anyway. Other than that you're right, only one disc for multiple systems.



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OdinHades said:
Metallox said:
Ok, I got confused here, so excuse my ignorance here, please. From what I can tell, the disc included in this new 'Xbox' case will be able to run on the Series X, Lockhart and One without any issues of compatibility? Won't there be separate discs for each console from now on?

I don't see Series S mentioned on the cover, so that console probably won't have an optical drive anyway. Other than that you're right, only one disc for multiple systems.

I will assume that they left that space next to XBOX ONE for there next unannounced console rumored the SERIES S.



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I would like the Xbox one more, but man that list of supported systems ruins it completely. The messaging on the PS5 box is clear. This is a next-gen game, for a next-gen system, but with a weirdly chosen white background. So yeah, both are "meh". Luckily neither will ruin any shelve space for me when I buy games digitally.



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shikamaru317 said:
Metallox said:
Ok, I got confused here, so excuse my ignorance here, please. From what I can tell, the disc included in this new 'Xbox' case will be able to run on the Series X, Lockhart and One without any issues of compatibility? Won't there be separate discs for each console from now on?

Yep. You insert the disc into Xbox One, Xbox One X, Series S (if there is a disc-drive Series S model, some rumors it may be digital only), or Series X, and your system installs the relevant files for the version of your console. You put this disc in XB1, it just installs the game. You put it into Series X, it installs the XB1 version then a patch that contains the upgraded graphical assets for the Series X version.

The bad part would be all games needing downloads to have the better visual on XSX.



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DonFerrari said:
shikamaru317 said:

Yep. You insert the disc into Xbox One, Xbox One X, Series S (if there is a disc-drive Series S model, some rumors it may be digital only), or Series X, and your system installs the relevant files for the version of your console. You put this disc in XB1, it just installs the game. You put it into Series X, it installs the XB1 version then a patch that contains the upgraded graphical assets for the Series X version.

The bad part would be all games needing downloads to have the better visual on XSX.

Not all. Some like Cyberpunk won't have their next-gen patches release until after the game itself releases, so obviously on both PS5 and XSX people have to download the Cyberpunk next-gen version even if they bought the disc. But on games that already have their next-gen versions ready on release, there could be enough disc space left for the next-gen assets, just depends on the size of the game. 

But honestly, with disc sizes being what they are (100 GB max), and some current gen games already being over 100 GB, I honestly think we're going to see alot of physical games that still require a download, regardless of platform. Better compression will help some, but still I'm expecting to see lots of 100 GB+ open world games. Publishers have proven they are too cheap to put 2 discs in one case these days, so if a game goes over 100 GB you're going to be forced to download part of it.



shikamaru317 said:
DonFerrari said:

The bad part would be all games needing downloads to have the better visual on XSX.

Not all. Some like Cyberpunk won't have their next-gen patches release until after the game itself releases, so obviously on both PS5 and XSX people have to download the Cyberpunk next-gen version even if they bought the disc. But on games that already have their next-gen versions ready on release, there could be enough disc space left for the next-gen assets, just depends on the size of the game. 

But honestly, with disc sizes being what they are (100 GB max), and some current gen games already being over 100 GB, I honestly think we're going to see alot of physical games that still require a download, regardless of platform. Better compression will help some, but still I'm expecting to see lots of 100 GB+ open world games. Publishers have proven they are too cheap to put 2 discs in one case these days, so if a game goes over 100 GB you're going to be forced to download part of it.

From what you said I misunderstood that all games with crossgen (not the only X1 that works because of BC, but the ones using this label) would need the download. But still even before the console launches they could already have to code to be on disc.

The two lastest physical games I bought had 2 discs, FFVIIR and TLOU2, I would bet additional 0.5 or 1.0 for the media is possibly less expensive than rates they possibly pay for the server to MS or Sony.

Like several of my android games, they have a download or update on the story of less than 200 Mb but then when you enter the game there is a 2Gb download (probably they have to pay more for the size on the store).



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

They’re both dreadfully meh.

XBox’s would be better if there wasn’t so much clutter. Three quarters of that added info would be better placed on the back. PS5’s is just plain ugly; the white is too much and the blue doesn’t fit at all.



DonFerrari said:
shikamaru317 said:

Yep. You insert the disc into Xbox One, Xbox One X, Series S (if there is a disc-drive Series S model, some rumors it may be digital only), or Series X, and your system installs the relevant files for the version of your console. You put this disc in XB1, it just installs the game. You put it into Series X, it installs the XB1 version then a patch that contains the upgraded graphical assets for the Series X version.

The bad part would be all games needing downloads to have the better visual on XSX.

I suppose Series X assets would be on disc already. That's exactly how Xbox One/One X is being handled right now. Some games can have additional One X assets and if you install the game on One S or Xbox One it picks lower definition assets and if you install it on One X, it picks higher definition assets. The executable file itself is universal. The same would apply for Series X. Just one more tier of assets is gonna be added. That's what that "Smart Delivery" thing is about. And that's what makes it different from plain free upgrade like on Playstation consoles. If you buy a PS4 game on disc and want to move to PS5 later, you will have to either install PS4 B/C version from disc or redownload the whole PS5 version of the game through internet. The disc won't have a PS5 version of the game in any capacity. Also, it is still a question what happens if you buy PS5 version of the game on disc and try to put it into PS5? Will Sony allow free "downgrade"? Who knows.