I think the real question is why are people more concerned about who does "better" or who "generate more buzz" in a particular event instead of how many games will each console have in their launch window.

I'm sure it was discussed on forums but forums aren't the whole world. Like I said, the average Joe doesn't care, they care about how the game looks and plays and don't watch DF comparison videos. Of course there are people who do care and that's why Sony and MS released the 4k mid-gen consoles. I bought one and I think it was worth it, mostly because I recently bought a 65inch Oled. But the fact remains that not many upgraded because they didn't think a bump in resolution was worth it.

I agree that some genres definitely should be 60fps like I said, mostly racing- and online fps games. But you were talking about single player campaigns and said "give me 60fps campaign over 30 any day of the week, thanks. Much more impressive, much more responsive." So are you saying you weren't impressed with some of the highest rated games of this console generation like RDR2, BOTW, GOW, TLOU2 etc. because they are 30fps?

You didn't say "the average joe" you said no one cares about frame rate or resolution when playing a game. Obviously that is complete nonsense and factually wrong, so go ahead and shift goalposts to say casual gamers or "average joe's" don't care about them. Of course, the average joe doesn't really care about any of the stuff you normally rant about. It's a silly argument to make. Do you think Uncharted 4 is a good game? Well, the average joe PS4 owner didn't even buy it. See? Silly.

Lots of people care about graphics and frame rate. Otherwise DigitalFoundry wouldn't exist. There wouldn't be a million different ways you can build a gaming PC because if no one cared about those things then every manufacturer would just have one or two products. We wouldn't be seeing a 10TF PS5 because who cares about graphics or frame rate, PS4 seemed fine?

Why do you keep asking me about some of the highest rated games of this gen? Not once have I or anyone in this thread said a game must be 4k or run at 60+ FPS to be good. You know what would have made BOTW even better? Or RDR2 even better? 60 FPS. But not being 60+ FPS doesn't make any of those games automatically bad. And for the record no, I didn't really care for any of them, though I am not that far into LoU2. Or God of War for that matter. That and Days Gone are two PS4 games in my backlog to finish.

There's a lot of nonsense in this post. For starters I didn't join this forum until 2012, which was like seven or eight years after the 360 launched and only a year before Xbone. So yeah, I didn't really "challenge" anyone gloating about how 360 games looked a tiny bit better or ran a bit better than PS3 games because I wasn't here. Secondly if those Xbox users are gone then who gives a flying fuck? Lastly all you're doing is making my case for me. So during the 7th gen one side cared about resolution and graphic fidelity. This gen the other side cared about it. Welp, sounds like I was right and people care about graphic fidelity and frame rate. I myself downplayed the visual difference between the Xbone and PS4 because it wasn't a big difference, and I still don't hesitate to turn off pretty graphics on my Scorpio if it means a higher frame rate. Hope that helped.

Because this is a sales forum so we discuss what can impact those.

And don't you think that the number of games available in the launch window might have an impact in sales?
I mean, if I'm planning to buy console A, but console A is not going to have the games I want in the next 6 months, why should I rush to make the purchase now? And of course, you're always going to have people in both camps who will buy their console of choice at launch even if it has zero games, but you know what I mean.

I just want to mention he tweeted congratulations to PS again....AGAIN....in regards to to TLOU 2. It's transparently sycophantic. This guy has media coverage based on ideas he had while flossing his teeth. His opinions don't deserve this amount of attention. Among the big 3, he is the epitome of a social media corporate husk. #PHILosophy

Fun fact, many game's logic and controller polling input run independent of output fps nowadays. So no, it wouldn't make any difference.

Another fun fact, Polybius running at native 120fps has higher latency when turning your head than standard 60fps psvr games that use frame shift to double to 120hz.