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chakkra on 17 June 2020
sales2099 said:

Runa, Ok let’s climb off that high horse now. You can keep explaining the Xbox One gen till you are blue in the face. Doesn’t change the optimism me and many others share for the next gen. I’m not saying you should jump on the hype train, you clearly need to see the critical acclaim to be remotely swayed. That’s fine, but you saying it’s wrong to not prefer what you prefer with that kind of passion just doesn’t make you come off as well as you think. I explained myself, and I’m sure other Xbox fans have their motivations. We’re just excited that for the first time in years they seem to have their act together. Now you can accept that or be quiet. 

I think you are just wasting your time with Runa. I mean, he just said that the only "decent" game on Xbox was Ori. That right there should tell you that he has such a strong conviction that there's absolutely nothing you, me, or anyone else could tell him.



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sales2099 on 17 June 2020
DonFerrari said:
sales2099 said:

Well said. I choose to believe while I am a minority with my tastes I do not believe there’s not many other then me. By that I mean there are many out there that enjoy a variety of genres. Individually they are niche (the genres) but together it can add to something big if they do it right.

Also despite all that was said and how this gen went down, the XB1 will finish this gen with 50 million. That’s pretty respectable for such a disastrous start and lack of IPs. Compare it to other “failures” like WiiU, GameCube,  Xbox, hell even Nintendo 64 sold terrible compared to PS1 yet its praised to this day. They have imo the best services and play a near identical library as PS4, exclusives being the exception of course.

All they need is to advertise they have an edge on those multiplats which again are 90%+ of a consoles library. Which I think they are doing a good job and will hammer it further next month. And finally of course deliver on their own first party selection. Obliterate the notion that they only have the trinity. I’m tired of hearing that (it’s true) and hopefully next month will extend that list. It’s no small statement to say many like myself are getting tired of waiting and need that wow factor to keep us going. 

The reason N64 or GC even though as failures will be well remembered and X1 won't is the games.

Remove your prefferences from the equation and look at the top 10 best reviewed exclusives of N64 and X1 and you'll see.

Oh I’m aware. Owned both myself, no regrets. Just saying it could have been much worse. And its funny but it plays right into my tastes that some of my favourite games from both made their way to Xbox and was able to play again. Perfect Dark was my favourite N64 title and they remastered it for Xbox years ago. Nice personal touch. 



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

 

DonFerrari on 17 June 2020
sales2099 said:
DonFerrari said:

The reason N64 or GC even though as failures will be well remembered and X1 won't is the games.

Remove your prefferences from the equation and look at the top 10 best reviewed exclusives of N64 and X1 and you'll see.

Oh I’m aware. Owned both myself, no regrets. Just saying it could have been much worse. And its funny but it plays right into my tastes that some of my favourite games from both made their way to Xbox and was able to play again. Perfect Dark was my favourite N64 title and they remastered it for Xbox years ago. Nice personal touch. 

I believe you and I don't think you should regret. If you don't really like Sony exclusives then X1 would at least be equal to it (even if selling lower) and if you like Xbox exclusives it will be better.

I have 0 problem with X1 being your favorite console ever, probably is for quite many people. I was just pointing out that years after release N64 will be better remembered than X1 (because we compare those to the time they existed and to who it competed) just as DK, 007 and BK will be more remembered than SoT.

People may think it is strange that you like most MS titles and seem to be tailored to your taste, but for me most Sony IPs are also a very good fit to me. And probably the same for most Nintendo fans. And that is the reason we prefer one platform or another.



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Leynos on 17 June 2020
eva01beserk said:
Leynos said:

They only teased them. They have yet to show gameplay of either. They showed an in engine model, not gameplay. NT is also a sizeable studio with over 120 people. Nintendo teased Metroid Prime 4 in 2017 and Bayonetta. Atlus SMTV. Seen nothing since. Hellblade 1 was not a large game anyway. 6 hours maybe 8 so it might be easier to get Hellblade out by maybe the end of this year or a 2021 game. Do you people really not know how game development works?

Pre HD era the average length was 18 months. Now it can average 2-4 years. Have you not noticed the slower output of most developers. 6th gen companies pumped out several sequels and IPs in 5 years. 7th gen they slowed to mostly being a couple of IPs and the rest outsourced. Some studios have the manpower and/or insane crunch to pump out more. These days it might be 1-3 games entire gen. If they have more it's much much smaller projects.

Why coulnd any of the other studios tease anything then? Yea that sucks for nintendo and trust me Im mad about metroid as well and I will also hold them to the same standard, not try to cover for them. Your trying to make excuses now. Ninja theory released a game this year, Bleading Edge, wich was not well received and has 2 other games in the works aparantly with only a 120 man crew, wich is still small compared to devs. Specially with the suposed $$$ of MS everyone keeps going on about. There is no reason to hold NT to a diferent standard than any of the other devs they have adquired. 

Bleeding Edge was in development a couple of years before MS bought them. I would never make an excuse for a developer I fucking despise. I hate and I mean I HATE NT.  There is no standard being held. Just fact games take time. How one studio is able to get something out has nothing to do with the other as each situation is different. Some studios are smaller and have different talent meant for different things.



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chakkra on 17 June 2020
DonFerrari said:
sales2099 said:

Oh I’m aware. Owned both myself, no regrets. Just saying it could have been much worse. And its funny but it plays right into my tastes that some of my favourite games from both made their way to Xbox and was able to play again. Perfect Dark was my favourite N64 title and they remastered it for Xbox years ago. Nice personal touch. 

I believe you and I don't think you should regret. If you don't really like Sony exclusives then X1 would at least be equal to it (even if selling lower) and if you like Xbox exclusives it will be better.

I have 0 problem with X1 being your favorite console ever, probably is for quite many people. I was just pointing out that years after release N64 will be better remembered than X1 (because we compare those to the time they existed and to who it competed) just as DK, 007 and BK will be more remembered than SoT.

People may think it is strange that you like most MS titles and seem to be tailored to your taste, but for me most Sony IPs are also a very good fit to me. And probably the same for most Nintendo fans. And that is the reason we prefer one platform or another.

Thank you! Some people seem to think that a person buys a game bcuz it is in the console that he owns, and not that a person buys a console bcuz it has the games that he wants.



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sales2099 on 17 June 2020
goopy20 said:
sales2099 said:

You want to act like you know me and my interests are superficial? Ok then. Growing up I played an ungodly amount of Xcom and Xcom Terror from the deep.

“Do you honestly not care about not getting any Series X exclusives for the next 2 years?” I know they are optimized, I care if they are quality experiences, and I know they aren’t on PlayStation. So that makes the choice easy. 

Okay, maybe it really is just a freak coincidence that all the games MS has announced seemed to be a tailor fit for your taste in games, a 80 Metacritic game like Hellblade happens to be your favorite new ip - and only game you wanted to play so bad when it was a ps4 exclusive - even though you have no interest in any of Sony's 95+ Metacritic flagship exclusives because they're all just 3rd person story driven single player adventure games...

I honestly wouldn't know if MS's services are better than Sony's. I tried GP and it was great to play Gears 4/5 for $1. PS Now, I honestly don't give 2 shits about. Stuff like services are just a bonus to me and definitely not something a console platform should hang their hat on. In the end people will buy console X over Y because it has the games they care about. Sony caters to a wide audience with their exclusives and isn't afraid to take risks. Do I buy them all? Hell no, there are plenty of quality Sony exclusives I don't care about either. However, Sony has proven time and time again that they deliver with plenty of games and fresh ip's I do care about. MS, however, has pretty much done the opposite.

Like I said, I'm totally open minded and I do actually hope MS will prove me wrong in July. It's just that I got this gut feeling I'll be able to predict exactly what they'll be showing, and it's not going to be enough.

Well the second and last paragraph seem subjective enough to leave alone. Now I thought I explained my tastes and why I have them, how Xbox caters to it. Yet you remain unconvinced by Hellblade. Fair enough. 

I like Viking culture and time periods. Not fantastical like GOW but the actual Viking era. Really excited for Assassins Creed this year! Same goes for TV shows like Vikings and The Last Kingdom on Netflix. Something about being in such a primitive period and the drama that occurs draws me to it. This looked like a unique take on it while maintaining historical accuracy. Yet they balance that with the concept that the main character has paranoid schizophrenia with deep psychosis/hallucinations. The concept that people wouldn’t know how to react to such a thing in that period intrigues me and struck me as very original.  

It was billed as a shorter game which suited me fine. Again I’m not really into long 3rd person adventure games so this struck me as more intimate. The narrative possibilities of having multiple voices inside your head. The combat looked tense from what I’ve seen but the game wouldn’t over rely on it either. I liked that it was more about the journey and characters then the combat or puzzles. The idea that your save would be terminated if you died too much made me want to try my hardest with every encounter. I dont get that feeling much anymore with quick saves being a norm. Graphically I was also blown away. 

And then it came to Xbox and Ms bought the studio :)

Last edited by sales2099 - on 17 June 2020

Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

 

Roma on 17 June 2020

people get easily hyped when it comes to Sony I mean the logo broke the internet, what does that tell you about the fans? Microsoft can easily beat them tbh. I think they kept the best for after what Sony would show which was not that exciting. To answer your question. Show Halo, Banjo, that open world game that i never seem to remember the name of.. Ever wild, ever world? Some turd parties and it would beat them :P



    R.I.P Mr Iwata :'(

sales2099 on 17 June 2020
DonFerrari said:
sales2099 said:

Oh I’m aware. Owned both myself, no regrets. Just saying it could have been much worse. And its funny but it plays right into my tastes that some of my favourite games from both made their way to Xbox and was able to play again. Perfect Dark was my favourite N64 title and they remastered it for Xbox years ago. Nice personal touch. 

I believe you and I don't think you should regret. If you don't really like Sony exclusives then X1 would at least be equal to it (even if selling lower) and if you like Xbox exclusives it will be better.

I have 0 problem with X1 being your favorite console ever, probably is for quite many people. I was just pointing out that years after release N64 will be better remembered than X1 (because we compare those to the time they existed and to who it competed) just as DK, 007 and BK will be more remembered than SoT.

People may think it is strange that you like most MS titles and seem to be tailored to your taste, but for me most Sony IPs are also a very good fit to me. And probably the same for most Nintendo fans. And that is the reason we prefer one platform or another.

Thank you, well said. Just want to point out 360 is my favourite console. XB1 “got the job done” lol. Only because they did a decent job with BC, Game Pass and made the console powerful with the X near the end of the gen. 



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

 

Runa216 on 17 June 2020
chakkra said:
sales2099 said:

Runa, Ok let’s climb off that high horse now. You can keep explaining the Xbox One gen till you are blue in the face. Doesn’t change the optimism me and many others share for the next gen. I’m not saying you should jump on the hype train, you clearly need to see the critical acclaim to be remotely swayed. That’s fine, but you saying it’s wrong to not prefer what you prefer with that kind of passion just doesn’t make you come off as well as you think. I explained myself, and I’m sure other Xbox fans have their motivations. We’re just excited that for the first time in years they seem to have their act together. Now you can accept that or be quiet. 

I think you are just wasting your time with Runa. I mean, he just said that the only "decent" game on Xbox was Ori. That right there should tell you that he has such a strong conviction that there's absolutely nothing you, me, or anyone else could tell him.

I never said that, someone else did. If you're going to disparage me, do so for the things I'm actually saying or doing (Writing too much and being overly critical)



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PS4, PS3, PS2, PS1, WiiU, Wii, GCN, N64 SNES, XBO, 360

3DS, DS, GBA, Vita, PSP, Android

Runa216 on 17 June 2020
DonFerrari said:
sales2099 said:

Well said. I choose to believe while I am a minority with my tastes I do not believe there’s not many other then me. By that I mean there are many out there that enjoy a variety of genres. Individually they are niche (the genres) but together it can add to something big if they do it right.

Also despite all that was said and how this gen went down, the XB1 will finish this gen with 50 million. That’s pretty respectable for such a disastrous start and lack of IPs. Compare it to other “failures” like WiiU, GameCube,  Xbox, hell even Nintendo 64 sold terrible compared to PS1 yet its praised to this day. They have imo the best services and play a near identical library as PS4, exclusives being the exception of course.

All they need is to advertise they have an edge on those multiplats which again are 90%+ of a consoles library. Which I think they are doing a good job and will hammer it further next month. And finally of course deliver on their own first party selection. Obliterate the notion that they only have the trinity. I’m tired of hearing that (it’s true) and hopefully next month will extend that list. It’s no small statement to say many like myself are getting tired of waiting and need that wow factor to keep us going. 

The reason N64 or GC even though as failures will be well remembered and X1 won't is the games.

Remove your prefferences from the equation and look at the top 10 best reviewed exclusives of N64 and X1 and you'll see.

I was going to say this, but I felt it would be a waste of time. There's a world of difference between gems like Mario 64, Ocarina of Time, Mario Kart 64, and Goldeneye vs Halo, Halo, Halo, Gears, Gears, Gears, and Forza, Forza Forza Forza Forza Forza. Oh, and I guess Ori and Cuphead. 



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PS5, Switch, XSX

PS4, PS3, PS2, PS1, WiiU, Wii, GCN, N64 SNES, XBO, 360

3DS, DS, GBA, Vita, PSP, Android