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Shiken said:
eva01beserk said:
sales2099 said:
eva01beserk said:
looks like this prediction was spot on. Gamepass is really just gona hurt the xbox brand.

Care to explain? It’s creating a lot of goodwill within the community. Like I pay the price of 3 games per year and play a lot more games then you. You would have to spend hundreds more to play the amount I am playing. To anybody not declaring their undying loyalty to Sony, it’s regarded as the best value in gaming. 

Do you believe what you mentioned third party's see as a possitive thing? EA, Activicion and other scumy big publishers are cringing at what you just mentioned amd will avoid ot like the plague. 

Yet EA Access is included with gamepass...

Ea acces does not include their new games. And even the old ones is not all of them. For that you have to get a premium or plus I cant remember the name. So why was that ine not included on gamepass? 



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Shiken said:

The PS5 and XSX are so similar, I cannot help but laugh at that notion. The only devs that may still opt out of XSX ports (without a money hat) would be smaller japanese devs for different reasons than you stated. But even then, most of those games will be showing up on Switch as well, so still not exclusive in most cases.

The same applies to MS, no one is going to pass on the PS5 without a money hat. There is a reason MS is buying up developers, as 1st party games have become more and more relevant each gen.

This is completely wrong.

List of PS4/5 games that will not be on SW:

  1. Granblue Fantasy
  2. Project Awakening
  3. Bablyon
  4. FF7R2
  5. Nier Replicant
  6. FF16
  7. RE8
  8. DMCV SE
  9. MHW2
  10. Team Ninja Nioh succesor
  11. Tales of Arise
  12. Persona
  13. Sakura Wars
  14. Aegis 13 Sentinels
  15. Ghostwire Tokyo

List of PS4/5 games not on XSX/XB1:

  1. Granblue Fantasy
  2. Project Awakening
  3. Bablyon
  4. FF7R
  5. FF16
  6. Team Ninja Nioh successor
  7. Persona
  8. Aegis 13 Sentinels
  9. Ghostwire Tokyo
  10. Genshin Impact
  11. DQ12
  12. Ace Attorney
  13. Yokai Watch
  14. Sakuna Rice
  15. Sakura Wars
  16. Persona

This is just as of now. Playstation will be the only place to play all of these games. SW misses many games that XB will get, XB will get many games SW misses, but Playstation will get both.



Another update:

Square Enix:

  1. FF7R
  2. FF16
  3. Project Athia
  4. Babylon

Capcom : ??

Atlus:

  1. Aegis 13 Sentinels
  2. Persona 25th anniversary project
  3. RE fantasy

Bethesda:

  1. Deathloop
  2. Ghostwire Tokyo

Konami:

  1. Silent Hill
  2. MGS Remake (Bluepoint)

Cygames:

  1. Gran Blue Fantasy
  2. Project Awakening

Tecmo:

  1. Team Ninja game
  2. Nioh 1/2 PS5

FROM:

  1. rumoured game

Arcs System Works

  1. Guilt Gear Strive

SIE 1st Party Collabs (many of these are rumoured so take with a grain of salt)

  1. Arrowhead AAA
  2. FROM SOFTWARE Bloodborne Remastered
  3. Media Vision Wild Arms
  4. Kojima VR title (PT like)
  5. Firesprite (ex-Wipeout devs)

3rd party:

  • 16 JP games
  • 1 Western game

1st party collabs:

  • 3 JP studios
  • 2 Western studios


Im Pretty sure big 3rd party AAA Publishers arent very fond of the Gamepass model since it would take away their potential sales of newer titles on Xbox Platforms, like when Take two released RDR2 and GTAV on Gamepass, yet only lasted for 3 months before taking them down

With Sony’s Push for the 70$ Game Pricing for next gen which is beneficial for Publishers (where Microsoft were skeptical, not to mention the Unified Xbox retail releases model alongside the Push for Gamepass) i could see the PS5 receiving the Theater status where most AAA is Timed Exclusive from the Publishers themselves (for 3 to 6 months up to a year, or until the Price drops)

I wont see PC gaming having 70$ Pricing on games any time soon, and with the PS being the preferable SKU sales-wise for Rockstar games i wont be Surprised if GTA VI received this Treatment first being a timed exclusive on PS5 (there’s even rumors about it already)



if the sales data is accurate and the ps5 is selling that much more then sony wont have to make any deal. publishers themselves will choose to make ps5 exclusive.



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src said:
Shiken said:

The PS5 and XSX are so similar, I cannot help but laugh at that notion. The only devs that may still opt out of XSX ports (without a money hat) would be smaller japanese devs for different reasons than you stated. But even then, most of those games will be showing up on Switch as well, so still not exclusive in most cases.

The same applies to MS, no one is going to pass on the PS5 without a money hat. There is a reason MS is buying up developers, as 1st party games have become more and more relevant each gen.

This is completely wrong.

List of PS4/5 games that will not be on SW:

  1. Granblue Fantasy
  2. Project Awakening
  3. Bablyon
  4. FF7R2
  5. Nier Replicant
  6. FF16
  7. RE8
  8. DMCV SE
  9. MHW2
  10. Team Ninja Nioh succesor
  11. Tales of Arise
  12. Persona
  13. Sakura Wars
  14. Aegis 13 Sentinels
  15. Ghostwire Tokyo

List of PS4/5 games not on XSX/XB1:

  1. Granblue Fantasy
  2. Project Awakening
  3. Bablyon
  4. FF7R
  5. FF16
  6. Team Ninja Nioh successor
  7. Persona
  8. Aegis 13 Sentinels
  9. Ghostwire Tokyo
  10. Genshin Impact
  11. DQ12
  12. Ace Attorney
  13. Yokai Watch
  14. Sakuna Rice
  15. Sakura Wars
  16. Persona

This is just as of now. Playstation will be the only place to play all of these games. SW misses many games that XB will get, XB will get many games SW misses, but Playstation will get both.

Lets see...Final Fantasy games are timed.

Ghostwire is Timed.

MHW2 I will play on XSX.

DMCV SE I will play on XSX.

Persona will likely come to Switch moving forward.

DQ12 I will play on Switch.

Tales of Arise I will play on XSX.

Genshin Impact I use mobile/PC cross progression.

Ace Attorney on Switch.

Nier Replicant I will play on XSX.

Yokai I won't bother with, but I could on Switch.

RE8 I will play on XSX.

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This leaves you with a very short list of...

Granblue, Project Awakening, Babylon (if not timed), Nioh, Sakura Wars, and Aegis 13.

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Meanwhile I will be playing, instead of those games....

Disgaea 6, MH Rise, MH Stories 2, Bayonetta 3, Octopath Traveler 2, SMT V, and more on Switch alone.

And STALKER 2, Warhammer 40,000 Darkside, The Medium, CrossfireX, and Phantasy Star Online 2: New Genesis all on the XSX.

You know what they all have in common?  3rd party games not on PS5.

You are trying so hard, you actually make it too easy to prove you wrong.  Dial it back and pick your battles better.  I am not even going to humor your list of rumors, as you reaching for them alone is enough to make you look desperate to prove a point that isn't there.



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Shiken said:
src said:

This is completely wrong.

List of PS4/5 games that will not be on SW:

  1. Granblue Fantasy
  2. Project Awakening
  3. Bablyon
  4. FF7R2
  5. Nier Replicant
  6. FF16
  7. RE8
  8. DMCV SE
  9. MHW2
  10. Team Ninja Nioh succesor
  11. Tales of Arise
  12. Persona
  13. Sakura Wars
  14. Aegis 13 Sentinels
  15. Ghostwire Tokyo

List of PS4/5 games not on XSX/XB1:

  1. Granblue Fantasy
  2. Project Awakening
  3. Bablyon
  4. FF7R
  5. FF16
  6. Team Ninja Nioh successor
  7. Persona
  8. Aegis 13 Sentinels
  9. Ghostwire Tokyo
  10. Genshin Impact
  11. DQ12
  12. Ace Attorney
  13. Yokai Watch
  14. Sakuna Rice
  15. Sakura Wars
  16. Persona

This is just as of now. Playstation will be the only place to play all of these games. SW misses many games that XB will get, XB will get many games SW misses, but Playstation will get both.

Lets see...Final Fantasy games are timed.

Ghostwire is Timed.

MHW2 I will play on XSX.

DMCV SE I will play on XSX.

Persona will likely come to Switch moving forward.

DQ12 I will play on Switch.

Tales of Arise I will play on XSX.

Genshin Impact I use mobile/PC cross progression.

Ace Attorney on Switch.

Nier Replicant I will play on XSX.

Yokai I won't bother with, but I could on Switch.

RE8 I will play on XSX.

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This leaves you with a very short list of...

Granblue, Project Awakening, Babylon (if not timed), Nioh, Sakura Wars, and Aegis 13.

-----

Meanwhile I will be playing, instead of those games....

Disgaea 6, MH Rise, MH Stories 2, Bayonetta 3, Octopath Traveler 2, SMT V, and more on Switch alone.

And STALKER 2, Warhammer 40,000 Darkside, The Medium, CrossfireX, and Phantasy Star Online 2: New Genesis all on the XSX.

You know what they all have in common?  3rd party games not on PS5.

You are trying so hard, you actually make it too easy to prove you wrong.  Dial it back and pick your battles better.  I am not even going to humor your list of rumors, as you reaching for them alone is enough to make you look desperate to prove a point that isn't there.

Stalker 2, Warhammer, The Medium, PSO2 are all multi-platform. D6 is already coming to PS4, MHR+Stories and OT are on PC. Bayonetta is treated like a 1st party IP, a la Demons Souls or Bloodborne.

So you're left with SMTV, which will probably come to PS later down the line.

L M A O

All that, XSX + PC + SW just to get what most get on a single platform: PS4/5. Proves my point.



eva01beserk said:

if the sales data is accurate and the ps5 is selling that much more then sony wont have to make any deal. publishers themselves will choose to make ps5 exclusive.

This doesn’t make any sense. Why would you isolate a big user base?



src said:
Shiken said:

Lets see...Final Fantasy games are timed.

Ghostwire is Timed.

MHW2 I will play on XSX.

DMCV SE I will play on XSX.

Persona will likely come to Switch moving forward.

DQ12 I will play on Switch.

Tales of Arise I will play on XSX.

Genshin Impact I use mobile/PC cross progression.

Ace Attorney on Switch.

Nier Replicant I will play on XSX.

Yokai I won't bother with, but I could on Switch.

RE8 I will play on XSX.

-----

This leaves you with a very short list of...

Granblue, Project Awakening, Babylon (if not timed), Nioh, Sakura Wars, and Aegis 13.

-----

Meanwhile I will be playing, instead of those games....

Disgaea 6, MH Rise, MH Stories 2, Bayonetta 3, Octopath Traveler 2, SMT V, and more on Switch alone.

And STALKER 2, Warhammer 40,000 Darkside, The Medium, CrossfireX, and Phantasy Star Online 2: New Genesis all on the XSX.

You know what they all have in common?  3rd party games not on PS5.

You are trying so hard, you actually make it too easy to prove you wrong.  Dial it back and pick your battles better.  I am not even going to humor your list of rumors, as you reaching for them alone is enough to make you look desperate to prove a point that isn't there.

Stalker 2, Warhammer, The Medium, PSO2 are all multi-platform. D6 is already coming to PS4, MHR+Stories and OT are on PC. Bayonetta is treated like a 1st party IP, a la Demons Souls or Bloodborne.

So you're left with SMTV, which will probably come to PS later down the line.

L M A O

All that, XSX + PC + SW just to get what most get on a single platform: PS4/5. Proves my point.

What are you on about?  You created two lists that contrast eachother to make them look bloated due to most games either releasing on either Switch or XSX as well, then you pull rumors into the discussion as if they are fact, and now you throw simple math out of the window with a "XSX+PC+SW to beat PS5" claim?

The only thing this exchange is proving is how diluted and hypocritical your points are.  It is clear that this will go no where, so it is not worth my time.  The way you backpeddal and try to spin everything pretty much takes away any credibility you may have had on the topic anyway.

"D6 already coming to PS4"

And as for this, I guess you live in Japan and/or speak it fluently?  Otherwise you will need a Switch to play this game properly.



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MasonADC said:
eva01beserk said:

if the sales data is accurate and the ps5 is selling that much more then sony wont have to make any deal. publishers themselves will choose to make ps5 exclusive.

This doesn’t make any sense. Why would you isolate a big user base?

Exactly. they wouldn't. the point is that if they dont become a big user base they will be neglected. If these sales chartz are any bit accurate, its looking like the ps5 is leaving the xbox duo behind already.  



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