I dunno.  Maybe you should go find some people who advocate that position, and ask them.

Nah.  I just don't really think the concept of generations really applies anymore, at least in regards to Nintendo, since they sort of abandoned that model arguably over a decade ago.  It makes sense when companies are maintaining hardware parity, or at least launching at around the same time.  When companies aren't doing that, and are introducing significant hardware revisions mid-"gen", it doesn't really work anymore.  Bottom line is that they're both the primary products being offered by their respective companies, and each company would much rather you spend money on their product (and games for it) than the other.  

Meh.  I've said what I said about my thoughts on generations. It's not an important enough topic to me that I'm going to spend any more time talking about it, just because someone decided to strawman a position for me.

I've heard a similar sort of reasoning before.  This was a lot of people told me in the mid to late 2000s about the housing market in the US.  I kept saying, "You have to consider both the best case and worst case scenario when getting a home loan."  More people than I can count told me, "those old housing principles don't really apply anymore.  We're in a new housing market now.  You're guaranteed to significantly beat inflation, so getting the biggest possible loan that you can."  Then they'd try to convince me that I needed to buy a new house ASAP.  The most surprising thing to me is how quickly people dismiss established principles if things look different for a short time.  If something is off, then don't be dismissive.  Be suspicious.

Of course, in this case it's no big loss to be wrong.  Who cares, right?  But I still find it interesting how easy it is for people to dismiss established principles, whether the stakes are low or the stakes are high.

I don't think that's an apt analogy.

With the concept of generations we're not talking about a principle.  We're simply talking about categorization.  Whether we call the Switch an 8th generation console, a 9th generation console, or abandon the concept altogether, it doesn't change anything about how gaming actually works.  Whatever generation we consider the Switch should have no bearing on how we predict the gaming market will play out.

What is objective is that the Switch launched several years after the PS4 and XBox One and its processing capabilities are not on par with them.  Those underlying facts really don't change based on what generation you consider the Switch to be.  On the other hand, people were actually under a grave misunderstanding of the facts when it came to the housing markets.  

I've heard a similar sort of reasoning before.  This was a lot of people told me in the mid to late 2000s about the housing market in the US.  I kept saying, "You have to consider both the best case and worst case scenario when getting a home loan."  More people than I can count told me, "those old housing principles don't really apply anymore.  We're in a new housing market now.  You're guaranteed to significantly beat inflation, so getting the biggest possible loan that you can."  Then they'd try to convince me that I needed to buy a new house ASAP.  The most surprising thing to me is how quickly people dismiss established principles if things look different for a short time.  If something is off, then don't be dismissive.  Be suspicious.

Of course, in this case it's no big loss to be wrong.  Who cares, right?  But I still find it interesting how easy it is for people to dismiss established principles, whether the stakes are low or the stakes are high.

I don't think that's an apt analogy.

With the concept of generations we're not talking about a principle.  We're simply talking about categorization.  Whether we call the Switch an 8th generation console, a 9th generation console, or abandon the concept altogether, it doesn't change anything about how gaming actually works.  Whatever generation we consider the Switch should have no bearing on how we predict the gaming market will play out.

What is objective is that the Switch launched several years after the PS4 and XBox One and its processing capabilities are not on par with them.  Those underlying facts really don't change based on what generation you consider the Switch to be.  On the other hand, people were actually under a grave misunderstanding of the facts when it came to the housing markets.  

I don't think that's an apt analogy.

With the concept of generations we're not talking about a principle.  We're simply talking about categorization.  Whether we call the Switch an 8th generation console, a 9th generation console, or abandon the concept altogether, it doesn't change anything about how gaming actually works.  Whatever generation we consider the Switch should have no bearing on how we predict the gaming market will play out.

What is objective is that the Switch launched several years after the PS4 and XBox One and its processing capabilities are not on par with them.  Those underlying facts really don't change based on what generation you consider the Switch to be.  On the other hand, people were actually under a grave misunderstanding of the facts when it came to the housing markets.  

If I'm hearing you right, it sounds like you never really believed in console generations to begin with.  Perhaps that is the disagreement?

I tend to think generations are more than a categorization.  They actually help describe sales behavior.  The Genesis launched in the US around the height of the NES's popularity.  It didn't affect NES sales at all.  But the Genesis had a huge impact on SNES sales.  The concept of generations is what explains this phenomenon.  

Kind of hard to have same processing power as consoles when your console is effectively a tablet.  It would be like comparing laptop to desktop.  

If I'm hearing you right, it sounds like you never really believed in console generations to begin with.  Perhaps that is the disagreement?

I tend to think generations are more than a categorization.  They actually help describe sales behavior.  The Genesis launched in the US around the height of the NES's popularity.  It didn't affect NES sales at all.  But the Genesis had a huge impact on SNES sales.  The concept of generations is what explains this phenomenon.