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Forums - Sales Discussion - Global Hardware 11 April 2020 - Final Fantasy VII Remake, Switch Shortages

DonFerrari on 23 April 2020
tak13 said:
DonFerrari said:

Still it is quite good to still make 4k after being finished for over 1 year, but the point was more like the market decides when the HW ended selling not the company.

You're so right in this...

Nintendo wasn't shipping based on demand, that's an assumption on how fast it went out of stock in several amazon sites and not a single-one deal on black friday 2019! Where was the 99$ NEW 2DXL? That could prove to be a boost to NS , in the long run...

That was  undoubtly a  financially sustainable sale! Probably, they didn't want to raise the production of such an old piece of hardware, in spite of a recent revision, being fully committed to NS production.

Kudos to Sony, which always meets the demand of its every obsolete gaming console, till the end of the consumer interest in it ( I Will never forget the abrupt transition from wii to wiiu).

Different philosophies I guess, Sony kept selling PS1 and PS2 long after successor and had good sales, PS3 not so much. Waiting to see what will happen with PS4.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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AJNShelton on 23 April 2020

Why the 600k difference suddenly for the Switch ?



Mandalore76 on 23 April 2020
DonFerrari said:
The_Liquid_Laser said:

Heh, these are crazy times.  Just look what kind of difference one week can make.

Last Week This Week % Change
PS4          159,783          325,988 104%
Switch          396,479          147,832 -63%
XB1            53,615            47,191 -12%
3DS              4,251              4,431 4%

XB1 and 3DS are stable =p

Would love to see some users that say Sony only sell 100M consoles because they keep the system selling forever until they reach that number calculating how many weeks would take for 3DS to reach 100M with 4k per week. A great system but its time is about finished =[

Who says this?

PS2 - 157m
PS4 - 108m
PS1 - 102m
PS3 -   87m
PSP -   81m
PSV -   16m



Mandalore76 on 23 April 2020
DonFerrari said:
Wasn't expecting Switch to drop so much and PS4 to increase so much so late even with FFVIIR, that can be considered a system seller.

The Switch sold 1.8m consoles in a 3 week period.  That tends to exhaust supply especially when a pandemic is affecting the global supply chain.  They are completely sold out online at Gamestop, Best Buy, & Target.  There are used Nintendo Switches listed on Amazon & Walmart for about $200 over the $299 MSRP proving it is a hard commodity to come buy even for the people who would have otherwise bought one.  

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DonFerrari on 23 April 2020
Mandalore76 said:
DonFerrari said:

XB1 and 3DS are stable =p

Would love to see some users that say Sony only sell 100M consoles because they keep the system selling forever until they reach that number calculating how many weeks would take for 3DS to reach 100M with 4k per week. A great system but its time is about finished =[

Who says this?

PS2 - 157m
PS4 - 108m
PS1 - 102m
PS3 -   87m
PSP -   81m
PSV -   16m

Azzanation is pretty adamant of it.

Mandalore76 said:
DonFerrari said:
Wasn't expecting Switch to drop so much and PS4 to increase so much so late even with FFVIIR, that can be considered a system seller.

The Switch sold 1.8m consoles in a 3 week period.  That tends to exhaust supply especially when a pandemic is affecting the global supply chain.  They are completely sold out online at Gamestop, Best Buy, & Target.  There are used Nintendo Switches listed on Amazon & Walmart for about $200 over the $299 MSRP proving it is a hard commodity to come buy even for the people who would have otherwise bought one.  

Amazon:

Buy used:
$532.97
& FREE Shipping
Used: Like New | Details
Sold by Tek Star (SIGNATURE REQUIRED 4 Delivery)

Select delivery location

New & Used (76) from

$478.95 + $9.98 Shipping

76 New & Used from $478.95 + $9.98 Shipping

Nintendo Switch with Neon Blue and Neon Red Joy‑Con - HAC-001(-01)
by Nintendo
4.8 out of 5 stars
15,498 ratings | 498 answered questions

Available from these sellers.

Style: Console
Color: Neon Blue and Red HAC-001(-01)

used from
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used from
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MSRP $299.99
Play your way with the Nintendo Switch gaming system. Whether you’re at home or on the go, solo or with friends, the Nintendo Switch system is designed to fit your life. Dock your Nintendo Switch to enjoy HD gaming on your TV. Heading out? Just undock your console and keep playing in handheld mode

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Yep it sold tremendously well, that is why I found the drop quite abrupt, like the inventory exhausted at once.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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Mandalore76 on 24 April 2020
DonFerrari said:
Mandalore76 said:

Who says this?

PS2 - 157m
PS4 - 108m
PS1 - 102m
PS3 -   87m
PSP -   81m
PSV -   16m

Azzanation is pretty adamant of it.

Well, there were 3 cases of it selling over 100m, and 3 cases of it not.  So, it's a silly argument.  

Mandalore76 said:

The Switch sold 1.8m consoles in a 3 week period.  That tends to exhaust supply especially when a pandemic is affecting the global supply chain.  They are completely sold out online at Gamestop, Best Buy, & Target.  There are used Nintendo Switches listed on Amazon & Walmart for about $200 over the $299 MSRP proving it is a hard commodity to come buy even for the people who would have otherwise bought one.  

Amazon:

Buy used:
$532.97
& FREE Shipping
Used: Like New | Details
Sold by Tek Star (SIGNATURE REQUIRED 4 Delivery)

Select delivery location

New & Used (76) from

$478.95 + $9.98 Shipping

76 New & Used from $478.95 + $9.98 Shipping

Nintendo Switch with Neon Blue and Neon Red Joy‑Con - HAC-001(-01)
by Nintendo
4.8 out of 5 stars
15,498 ratings | 498 answered questions

Available from these sellers.

Style: Console
Color: Neon Blue and Red HAC-001(-01)

used from
$482.98

used from
$519.95

MSRP $299.99
Play your way with the Nintendo Switch gaming system. Whether you’re at home or on the go, solo or with friends, the Nintendo Switch system is designed to fit your life. Dock your Nintendo Switch to enjoy HD gaming on your TV. Heading out? Just undock your console and keep playing in handheld mode

https://www.amazon.com/Nintendo-Switch-Neon-Blue-Joy‑/dp/B07VGRJDFY/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=Nintendo+Switch&qid=1587647296&sr=8-1

Walmart:

Nintendo Switch Console with Gray Joy-Con

Average rating:4.6out of5stars, based on1240reviews
1240 reviews
NintendoWalmart # 577171194Adult
$499.95
$499.95

Qty:
Add to Cart

Free 2-day delivery
Arrives by Mon, Apr 27

Pickup not available

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Nintendo-Switch-Console-with-Gray-Joy-Con/994790027

Yep it sold tremendously well, that is why I found the drop quite abrupt, like the inventory exhausted at once.

What's on the shelves will only last so long.  2 million units in the supply chain is usually a good amount at any given time.  The combination of the huge Animal Crossing release & people in lockdown having a ton of time on their hands, led to that stock blowing out in a 3 week span.  Combine that with difficulty resupplying due to the pandemic's effect on manufacturing in Asia and huge sales numbers had to crash once that stockpile had been exhausted.  I think there were warnings from analysts during the peak number sales weeks that the available stock was dwindling, so it wasn't that unexpected.



DonFerrari on 24 April 2020
Mandalore76 said:
DonFerrari said:

Azzanation is pretty adamant of it.

Well, there were 3 cases of it selling over 100m, and 3 cases of it not.  So, it's a silly argument.  

Yep it sold tremendously well, that is why I found the drop quite abrupt, like the inventory exhausted at once.

What's on the shelves will only last so long.  2 million units in the supply chain is usually a good amount at any given time.  The combination of the huge Animal Crossing release & people in lockdown having a ton of time on their hands, led to that stock blowing out in a 3 week span.  Combine that with difficulty resupplying due to the pandemic's effect on manufacturing in Asia and huge sales numbers had to crash once that stockpile had been exhausted.  I think there were warnings from analysts during the peak number sales weeks that the available stock was dwindling, so it wasn't that unexpected.

Yes I have seem the reports and threads discussing the resupplying issues, I've seem Japan having stock deficts and all. So I expected to see a continuous decline (due to some areas being without stock before others) but from VGC numbers it seems like it more or less occured at once.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."