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haxxiy on 23 April 2020
JWeinCom said:


The last hour of the game or so is essentially fighting against the story of the original game. Even aside from how you feel about them sticking to the story, it was a jarring fourth wall breaking shift as you go from fighting an evil power company to fighting a physical manifestation of an abstract concept.

Some people are going to like the potential of being surprised in the next entries. For instance I'm actually more invested in Aeris (I prefer the old translation) as a character *spoiler for the original* now that I don't know if she gets kabobed. But, for those who were really looking forward to seeing the story of FF7 recreated with modern technology and gameplay sensibilities (what generally constitutes a remake) there is legitimate cause for disappointment based on how the game was presented and marketed.


So that's basically my opinion. There's a lot of good stuff in there, and at times the game is great. But it's got a lot of the same issues as when you try to convert a TV series into a movie or vice versa, where it doesn't quite fit the new format.

Edit - mind some spoilers ahead.

It did feel very meta in a way.

Now, thinking about it, if the ghosts are really gone by the end, that implies the next games might deviate heavily of the original plot and thus any estimates of how many parts there should be left after Midgar are meaningless, since the story isn't going to be the same. They might very well decide to make it to, I don't know, Wutai next, instead of chasing the "man in the black cape" who is far less of a mystery this time around.

Maybe the "Remake" included in FFVII Remake was a subtitle all along, with all its implications.

(That being said, if the way they want to change the plot is all about whitewashing Avalanche and having all characters survive, that feels more like a fanfiction.net version of FFVII instead of good, powerful storytelling, IMO).

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JWeinCom on 23 April 2020
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Spoiler text.
haxxiy said:
JWeinCom said:


The last hour of the game or so is essentially fighting against the story of the original game. Even aside from how you feel about them sticking to the story, it was a jarring fourth wall breaking shift as you go from fighting an evil power company to fighting a physical manifestation of an abstract concept.

Some people are going to like the potential of being surprised in the next entries. For instance I'm actually more invested in Aeris (I prefer the old translation) as a character *spoiler for the original* now that I don't know if she gets kabobed. But, for those who were really looking forward to seeing the story of FF7 recreated with modern technology and gameplay sensibilities (what generally constitutes a remake) there is legitimate cause for disappointment based on how the game was presented and marketed.


So that's basically my opinion. There's a lot of good stuff in there, and at times the game is great. But it's got a lot of the same issues as when you try to convert a TV series into a movie or vice versa, where it doesn't quite fit the new format.

It did feel very meta in a way.

Now, thinking about it, if the ghosts are really gone by the end, that implies the next games might deviate heavily of the original plot and thus any estimates of how many parts there should be left after Midgar are meaningless, since the story isn't going to be the same. They might very well decide to make it to, I don't know, Wutai next, instead of chasing the "man in the black cape" who is far less of a mystery this time around.

Maybe the "Remake" included in FFVII Remake was a subtitle all along, with all its implications.

(That being said, if the way they want to change the plot is all about whitewashing Avalanche and having all characters survive, that feels more like a fanfiction.net version of FFVII instead of good, powerful storytelling, IMO).
Spoiler!
They've already saved 3 characters who died in the original.  And they seem to be heavily implying Aeris will live as well.  Of course, this could be a fake out just so they could break people's hearts again, which would be kind of hilarious.


haxxiy on 23 April 2020
JWeinCom said:
Spoiler!
Spoiler text.
haxxiy said:

It did feel very meta in a way.

Now, thinking about it, if the ghosts are really gone by the end, that implies the next games might deviate heavily of the original plot and thus any estimates of how many parts there should be left after Midgar are meaningless, since the story isn't going to be the same. They might very well decide to make it to, I don't know, Wutai next, instead of chasing the "man in the black cape" who is far less of a mystery this time around.

Maybe the "Remake" included in FFVII Remake was a subtitle all along, with all its implications.

(That being said, if the way they want to change the plot is all about whitewashing Avalanche and having all characters survive, that feels more like a fanfiction.net version of FFVII instead of good, powerful storytelling, IMO).
Spoiler!
They've already saved 3 characters who died in the original.  And they seem to be heavily implying Aeris will live as well.  Of course, this could be a fake out just so they could break people's hearts again, which would be kind of hilarious.

To be fair, it would be interesting to see things go downhill precisely because that happened, in a Final Destination-esque way. So that's why I'm refraining from being more critical, since who knows what will happen and how these plot points will look like in hindsight.



 

 

 

 

 

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Hynad on 23 April 2020
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Finished the game last night, i absolutely loved the ending and with the ending and understanding the smoke things😏 i love th now and thing its One of the best things they done. The leads of the development of this game are fucking genius and the concept of that fight before the last fight is mundo blowing, you literaly battle all the little shits that plagued the ff7 remake thread these past 5 year bitching and moaning about chances , about against remaking , its a Middle finger to them from the Dev team. I cant wait to play the second part and the potencial of even Spin offs!!!!

This game is not perfect but does some perfect things, characters, story are perfect, music is perfection 10/10 , combat is fun but they can improve it, visuals range from a 10/10 , super polished amazing graphics to the worst graphics in a triple A game i ever seen, i took screenshots and in the future Will do a analyses thread for this because its só fucking weird. Level design is absolutely horrible sometimes , levels of ff13 horrible, toryama dirty fingers on this game killed me, as soon as i Saw his name on start credits i knew. They still cant do side quests like in ff15.

Part 2 needs to BE a mix of this game and ff15 with big Open areas and no inconsistencies in visuals like this game. Hope its ps5 exclusive and they use those juicy fast new specs of ps5, ssd power baby.

Funny you complain about Toriyama when, as co-director (scenario design), he had nothing to do with the level design aspects of the game. That role was filled by Kazuhiro Kataoka, who handled a team of 4 level design supervisors and 19 level designers.

The more you know.

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StokedUp on 24 April 2020

So when do people expect part 2 to be released? Im really hoping that SE are alot further into it than people think (obviously) . I'm truly enjoying going through this story again and seeing Midgar and the characters brought to life, I loved the original and I can tell that this is going to exceed it, but the thought of having to wait to long is frustrating.
I just hope we hear something about how the progress is going this year just so we know when to expect it.



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TruckOSaurus on 24 April 2020

End of chapter 13 Start of Chapter 14 spoiler below

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I really loved that conversation between Aerith and Cloud in the garden during the night. What really got to me is when she says "Everybody dies at some point" she has her hand to her face in the same position as when she does dies in the original. I thought that was a nice touch!
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Xxain on 24 April 2020

I am 90% positive that remake is a sequel to FF7 and ghost are ensuring that things play similiarly.

On chapter 13 now. So I look forward to what trucks is posting.

EDIT _ when Cait Sith ran out I thought it was Mickey Mouse at first



Immersiveunreality on 24 April 2020

Red XIII and Barret are both my fav characters in this game,cloud might in the next parts when he gets a bit less cold.



TruckOSaurus on 24 April 2020
Xxain said:

I am 90% positive that remake is a sequel to FF7 and ghost are ensuring that things play similiarly.

On chapter 13 now. So I look forward to what trucks is posting.

EDIT _ when Cait Sith ran out I thought it was Mickey Mouse at first

Just a warning, I was mistaken, my spoiler is at the very start of Chapter 14, not the end of 13.



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