KLXVER said:
JRPGfan said:
USA has neither. The "american dream" of working hard, anyman can succede and be well off, is actually not true. The US has lower social mobility than basically any european country.
If your born into a poor family in the US, chances are very high, you' ll be poor your entire life too. Statistics show this.
No one is asking for "equal outcome", its ridiculous to even meantion that. However, the poor can't carry the load and heavy burdon to the degree they currently are... its not healthy for the nation overall that so few sit on all the wealth.
Incom inequality is a huge issue in the US. You can be poor and have worked much harder than any rich man, and still stay poor. Some people have multiple jobs and are still struggleing. Basically if your working like 14hours+ a day, and cant make ends meet, something is wrong with the system.
Also the inferstructure in the US has issues. Clean drinkable water is actually a issue in large parts of america. Pipes are old, rusty, in need of replacements, and theres just no money for it.
The solution is to tax the rich, and deal with such issues.
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No, its a very short time solution in that case. It wont happen. Rich people arent just going to give away most of their money. They will fuck off and leave you with way less. Its a pipe dream and you need to come up with something better.
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Trump paid 750$ of tax last year, right?
Guy has millions and millions, and lives life at large.
While some poor smuch works 14hours a day, barely makes a liveing, is taxed more than Trump was.
This person might be on the verge of starveing, but the goverment takes more form him, than it does someone like Trump.
How is that fair?
The rich need to pay their taxes, and it needs to be higher than the lowest wage workers, both in terms of amount, but also in %.
This is how a (fair) society works.... and most places around the world its like that.
If trump wants to move to some backwaters african country, where he doesnt have to pay as much in tax's as the US, he's free to do so.
(rich) People like trump, who cheat with taxes, are the reason the US doesnt have enough money to have such things as clean water everywhere.
Millions of americans, have brown/green water, come out of their taps when they open them. Some places the water they have is actually said to be "undrinkable", but its all they have, so they drink unsafe water, bathe in it, and die to health issues from it. This is the cost, of the rich people cheating the system, and not paying taxes, theres downsides to it, for society (like not haveing money to replace bad pipes ect).
You know what they do have money for?
Bailouts for rich companies! and all of Trumps rich buddies, and tax cuts for the rich :)
How did they have money for this? but not clean water? well.... they took on debt, a IOU if you will... and just did it.
Meanwhile for the past 20years.... clean water has been and stays a issue in large parts of america.... sadly theres no money for anything to be done about it.
Last edited by JRPGfan - on 07 November 2020