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LurkerJ said:

According to the exit poll, Trump did better in 2020 with every race and gender except white men.

Change from 2016:

  • White Men -5
  • White Women +2
  • Black Men +4
  • Black Women +4
  • Latino Men +3
  • Latino Women +3
  • Other +5

So I figure this statistic is absolute bullshit then. It is heavily skewed because a lot of the votes came in through mail.



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KLXVER said:
vivster said:

From her tweet it is very much clear that she is exclusively referring to Republican politicians who supported Trump in the past 4 years and not every voter. Might help you to look up the word "sycophant".

"A person who attempts to gain advantage by flattering influential people or behaving in a servile manner."

Aka not something your average Trump voter could have done.

It's even funnier considering that the majority of Trump voters, the non-millionaires, can't even be sycophants by definition because they are worse off than before.



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vivster said:
KLXVER said:

"A person who attempts to gain advantage by flattering influential people or behaving in a servile manner."

Aka not something your average Trump voter could have done.

It's even funnier considering that the majority of Trump voters, the non-millionaires, can't even be sycophants by definition because they are worse off than before.

Not sure how this is about wealth. Also people being worse off is because of the lockdowns. 



vivster said:
LurkerJ said:

According to the exit poll, Trump did better in 2020 with every race and gender except white men.

Change from 2016:

  • White Men -5
  • White Women +2
  • Black Men +4
  • Black Women +4
  • Latino Men +3
  • Latino Women +3
  • Other +5

So I figure this statistic is absolute bullshit then. It is heavily skewed because a lot of the votes came in through mail.

Nah its legit. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/11/03/us/elections/exit-polls-president.html

Trunp got a bigger share of the minority votes than anu Republican candidate since the 60s and did better with Woman im 2020 than in 2016.



KLXVER said:
vivster said:

Aka not something your average Trump voter could have done.

It's even funnier considering that the majority of Trump voters, the non-millionaires, can't even be sycophants by definition because they are worse off than before.

Not sure how this is about wealth. Also people being worse off is because of the lockdowns. 

Not s ingle policy of trump helped the average voter. The only people better off right now are millionaires and billionaires and that is despite the lockdowns. Trump could've done more for people who are now struggling, but he didn't because all he ever cared about were his rich friends who got billions in bailouts and tax breaks while everyone else got a slap in the face.

So yeah, the sycophants are Republican politicians and influential rich people and nobody else. Nobody is making lists of voters, they already fucked themselves.



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jason1637 said:
vivster said:

So I figure this statistic is absolute bullshit then. It is heavily skewed because a lot of the votes came in through mail.

Nah its legit. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/11/03/us/elections/exit-polls-president.html

Trunp got a bigger share of the minority votes than anu Republican candidate since the 60s and did better with Woman im 2020 than in 2016.

As has clearly been demonstrated, polls can be wrong. Sometimes many polls can be wrong. So, basing such a conclusion on one poll is very bad epistemology. 



JWeinCom said:
jason1637 said:

Nah its legit. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/11/03/us/elections/exit-polls-president.html

Trunp got a bigger share of the minority votes than anu Republican candidate since the 60s and did better with Woman im 2020 than in 2016.

As has clearly been demonstrated, polls can be wrong. Sometimes many polls can be wrong. So, basing such a conclusion on one poll is very bad epistemology. 

Its not like a pre election poll. Exit polls do a better job at reflecting the results and other places had similar findings. But you do have a point they could always be wrong regardless. 



vivster said:
KLXVER said:

Not sure how this is about wealth. Also people being worse off is because of the lockdowns. 

Not s ingle policy of trump helped the average voter. The only people better off right now are millionaires and billionaires and that is despite the lockdowns. Trump could've done more for people who are now struggling, but he didn't because all he ever cared about were his rich friends who got billions in bailouts and tax breaks while everyone else got a slap in the face.

So yeah, the sycophants are Republican politicians and influential rich people and nobody else. Nobody is making lists of voters, they already fucked themselves.

Yeah, cut the taxes of the rich and they actually pay their taxes. Tax them more and they will leave the state or find legal ways to pay way less. So no other option than to raise the taxes of everyone. The rich pay a huge amount of the taxes in the country. The top 1% pays like 37% of all taxes.



jason1637 said:
vivster said:

So I figure this statistic is absolute bullshit then. It is heavily skewed because a lot of the votes came in through mail.

Nah its legit. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/11/03/us/elections/exit-polls-president.html

Trunp got a bigger share of the minority votes than anu Republican candidate since the 60s and did better with Woman im 2020 than in 2016.

It is only an exit poll. That means a huge number of people, specifically minority Democrat voters are not in there because they voted by mail. If we go by exit polls that would also mean Trump won the election, which he didn't because of mail in votes. Using exit polls in this election is like using only physical sales in gaming to determine success.

Or to break it down for you, a minority Trump voter is much more likely to vote in person than by mail, meaning exit polls are heavily skewed.



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KLXVER said:
vivster said:

Not s ingle policy of trump helped the average voter. The only people better off right now are millionaires and billionaires and that is despite the lockdowns. Trump could've done more for people who are now struggling, but he didn't because all he ever cared about were his rich friends who got billions in bailouts and tax breaks while everyone else got a slap in the face.

So yeah, the sycophants are Republican politicians and influential rich people and nobody else. Nobody is making lists of voters, they already fucked themselves.

Yeah, cut the taxes of the rich and they actually pay their taxes. Tax them more and they will leave the state or find legal ways to pay way less. So no other option than to raise the taxes of everyone. The rich pay a huge amount of the taxes in the country. The top 1% pays like 37% of all taxes.

And they should be paying more, or what do you think those tax havens are for? They are hiding their cash to lower the taxes they have to actually pay. Income inequality has to come down somehow and it's obviously not going to trickle down.



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