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IcaroRibeiro said:
Nothing decided yet?

Fellow americans what do you think about the idea of changing your voting system to something more digital? It's not only harder to cheat, but also much faster

IMO digital would be far easier to falsify.
 



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Jumpin said:

Insane woman from Trump administration starts incoherently channeling demons to strike down Biden.

Hopefully she has loony bin insurance where she can get her brain defucked.

And the memes are already coming:



IcaroRibeiro said:
Nothing decided yet?

Fellow americans what do you think about the idea of changing your voting system to something more digital? It's not only harder to cheat, but also much faster

Watching our old senators and house members grill Amazon, Facebook, Google etc about what they actually do.  They have no idea about technology and wouldn't trust anything that came out of silcon valley. 



Within 2000 in Georgia. Last batch of votes in Clayton County was 86% for Biden. There are nearly 6000 left just in that county. Math looks good for Biden.



"Biden may pull into the lead in Georgia tonight. According to CNN, Clayton County plans to release results from its 5,700 outstanding ballots by midnight. Biden won the last batch of Clayton votes 87 percent to 13 percent; if he wins the remainder by the same amount, he’d net about 4,300 votes. Trump’s current Georgia lead is only 2,497 votes."


In other words it should be over by midnight, with Georgia flipping Blue!!!



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JWeinCom said:
IcaroRibeiro said:
Nothing decided yet?

Fellow americans what do you think about the idea of changing your voting system to something more digital? It's not only harder to cheat, but also much faster

Harder to cheat by whom? By individual voters, or by outside hacking attempts?

I think the overall problem with digital voting is the lack of a paper trail. It's always good to have some kind of physical evidence. 

I'm also not especially concerned about the speed. It is frustrating on a personal level not to know the results quickly, but the most important thing is an accurate count. Speediness is a distant second.

Electronic ballot polls with no internet (or any outside connection for that matter) are impossible to hack.

These ballots can both print a copy of your vote for you in the moment you vote, but will also (at the end of the voting session/day) print the total of votes for each candidate 

This second print is then scanned and sent to a server. The only point that can be hacked is that server, however is easier to protect one entity than a hundred 

This second print is publicly available, with copies send to parties and local citizens representatives, right in the moment the voting is closed at the same time of the scanning

As the voting numbers for each section is printed and send to both citizens and parties, each one can check the consistency between the printed votes and the scanned votes on the server, hence it's quite transparent and easy to detect any kind of improper change 



IcaroRibeiro said:
JWeinCom said:

Harder to cheat by whom? By individual voters, or by outside hacking attempts?

I think the overall problem with digital voting is the lack of a paper trail. It's always good to have some kind of physical evidence. 

I'm also not especially concerned about the speed. It is frustrating on a personal level not to know the results quickly, but the most important thing is an accurate count. Speediness is a distant second.

Electronic ballot polls with no internet (or any outside connection for that matter) are impossible to hack.

These ballots can both print a copy of your vote for you in the moment you vote, but will also (at the end of the voting session/day) print the total of votes for each candidate 

This second print is then scanned and sent to a server. The only point that can be hacked is that server, however is easier to protect one entity than a hundred 

This second print is publicly available, with copies send to parties and local citizens representatives, right in the moment the voting is closed at the same time of the scanning

As the voting numbers for each section is printed and send to both citizens and parties, each one can check the consistency between the printed votes and the scanned votes on the server, hence it's quite transparent and easy to detect any kind of improper change 

So, I think we may be talking about two different things...

Are you talking about digital replacements for day of voting machines, or as a replacement for mail in voting?

Because the latter, mail in voting, is really what's causing this delay. I don't know if digital voting machines might be good in general, but they wouldn't solve this problem which, again, I don't think is really a problem. 

I think the simple way to fix the problem this year is what some states have done, and what some states were prevented from doing. Let them process or count mail in ballots early. Why we got results quickly in Florida and Texas. They had days or weeks to get a head start. 



JWeinCom said:
IcaroRibeiro said:

Electronic ballot polls with no internet (or any outside connection for that matter) are impossible to hack.

These ballots can both print a copy of your vote for you in the moment you vote, but will also (at the end of the voting session/day) print the total of votes for each candidate 

This second print is then scanned and sent to a server. The only point that can be hacked is that server, however is easier to protect one entity than a hundred 

This second print is publicly available, with copies send to parties and local citizens representatives, right in the moment the voting is closed at the same time of the scanning

As the voting numbers for each section is printed and send to both citizens and parties, each one can check the consistency between the printed votes and the scanned votes on the server, hence it's quite transparent and easy to detect any kind of improper change 

So, I think we may be talking about two different things...

Are you talking about digital replacements for day of voting machines, or as a replacement for mail in voting?

The former



IcaroRibeiro said:
JWeinCom said:

So, I think we may be talking about two different things...

Are you talking about digital replacements for day of voting machines, or as a replacement for mail in voting?

The former

In that case, it's just not the solution to the problem we're having right now. 



Trump's lead in Georgia just shrunk down to 1.9k!!!