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Forums - Sales Discussion - Global Hardware 7 March 2020

Nu-13 said:
MasonADC said:

I forget exactly who, but one analyst predicted worldwide stock issues by April. Things might get bad soon

Nah, the ps4 stock from dec 31 could last until the end of april without any more shipping.

I was referring to the switch, I’m sure the PS4 has plenty of stock worldwide for the upcoming months 



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Curious to see what happens with Xbone numbers over the next few months. Will it manage to remain above 40k as it has so far, or will we regularly get weeks in the 30s range?



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trunkswd said:
victor83fernandes said:

Those numbers don't sound correct, I'm in Europe, I doubt the Xbox is selling that much, ps4 only 7x the xbox? Surely they are selling at least 10x, I know of no one buying xbox, unless they are buying as replacements. I'm in UK but back in Portugal xbox has basically disappeared. Whoever had one has already swapped for a ps4.

Also almost 1000 xbox in Japan? I doubt it, that sounds far too many for Japan.

Xbox is below 10k for all of Europe. That is reasonable for what we are seeing. Majority of those sales are in the UK, Germany and France. There are over 700 million people in Europe. 

The 1,000 sales are for more than just Japan. It includes Japan, all of Asia and the middle East. 

Exactly my point, there is no way the xbox sold 10 000 in Europe, I live here in the UK, no one at all is buying xbox, unless its replacement for broken ones, but even then. I am from Portugal, and back home xbox is next to non existent, 80% of gamers back there are on PC, 19% are on ps4/ps3 and switch, 1% are on xbox one, 360 and ps2

1000 consoles for Asia seems even more doubtful, there hasn't been any exclusive JRPGs on it, very high number for this time in the console generation.

Here in the UK I see some people with xbox, but whoever wanted already got one, I see no one buying new xbox at all. I only see xbox gamers looking for new controllers, I know a few people actually moving to PC and having a ps4 for the exclusives such as Spiderman, God of war, Last of us 2.

Also the switch selling less than ps4? No way, all I seem to see here is people looking to buy switches, everyone's gone crazy for it, I check the local classifieds every day and all I see is people asking for a switch, and none available second hand, so they just end buying new. When a switch comes to the second hand website, it disappears within minutes, its really very popular here in Europe. Also the switch seems like the only thing my 2 nephews talk about these days, so I believe it became popular back in Portugal too. I am positive they are selling more than ps4.

PS - This is my opinion, I think these xbox numbers are inflated, you do not have to agree, you have the right to your opinion too.

I just don't think Americans realize how unpopular the xbox is here in Europe. It actually got popular with the 360 due to easy piracy on it. But this generation people got uninterested really fast, the only game holding some interest on xbox here in Europe is Forza Horizon, that's the only xbox game that I ever hear xbox people talk about.

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victor83fernandes said:
trunkswd said:

Xbox is below 10k for all of Europe. That is reasonable for what we are seeing. Majority of those sales are in the UK, Germany and France. There are over 700 million people in Europe. 

The 1,000 sales are for more than just Japan. It includes Japan, all of Asia and the middle East. 

Exactly my point, there is no way the xbox sold 10 000 in Europe, I live here in the UK, no one at all is buying xbox, unless its replacement for broken ones, but even then. I am from Portugal, and back home xbox is next to non existent, 80% of gamers back there are on PC, 19% are on ps4/ps3 and switch, 1% are on xbox one, 360 and ps2

1000 consoles for Asia seems even more doubtful, there hasn't been any exclusive JRPGs on it, very high number for this time in the console generation.

Here in the UK I see some people with xbox, but whoever wanted already got one, I see no one buying new xbox at all. I only see xbox gamers looking for new controllers, I know a few people actually moving to PC and having a ps4 for the exclusives such as Spiderman, God of war, Last of us 2.

Also the switch selling less than ps4? No way, all I seem to see here is people looking to buy switches, everyone's gone crazy for it, I check the local classifieds every day and all I see is people asking for a switch, and none available second hand, so they just end buying new. When a switch comes to the second hand website, it disappears within minutes, its really very popular here in Europe. Also the switch seems like the only thing my 2 nephews talk about these days, so I believe it became popular back in Portugal too. I am positive they are selling more than ps4.

PS - This is my opinion, I think these xbox numbers are inflated, you do not have to agree, you have the right to your opinion too.

I just don't think Americans realize how unpopular the xbox is here in Europe. It actually got popular with the 360 due to easy piracy on it. But this generation people got uninterested really fast, the only game holding some interest on xbox here in Europe is Forza Horizon, that's the only xbox game that I ever hear xbox people talk about.

Anecdotal evidence generally isn't a good barometer of larger trends, especially when we're talking about sales across a continent of over 700 million people. The people you know or see are just a tiny fraction of the bigger picture, basically.

As a teenager I knew more people who owned an original Xbox than a PS2, yet the PS2 still sold like 6 times more.



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MasonADC said:
kazuyamishima said:
Good numbers for a system that is 6+ years old and it’s $299/399.

The switch is starting to get affected by the coronavirus, will we see any drops in other regions aside of Japan??

I forget exactly who, but one analyst predicted worldwide stock issues by April. Things might get bad soon

Guys, how long have you followed gaming news? This is normal for Nintendo, they create low stock on purpose. The more unavailable a product is the more desirable it becomes. If a product is too available, people will just wait to see price drops or sales. Its artificial demand.

The same will happen with the launch of ps5, sony will create shortages, to give the impression that its a very desirable product, buy it now before it goes is a very known tactic.



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victor83fernandes said:
MasonADC said:

I forget exactly who, but one analyst predicted worldwide stock issues by April. Things might get bad soon

Guys, how long have you followed gaming news? This is normal for Nintendo, they create low stock on purpose. The more unavailable a product is the more desirable it becomes. If a product is too available, people will just wait to see price drops or sales. Its artificial demand.

The same will happen with the launch of ps5, sony will create shortages, to give the impression that its a very desirable product, buy it now before it goes is a very known tactic.

They are not creating artificial demand. The Foxconn factories in China that manufacture the Switch were shut down due to the COVID-19 outbreak.



Bet with Liquidlaser: I say PS5 and Xbox Series will sell more than 56 million combined by the end of 2023.

victor83fernandes said:
MasonADC said:

I forget exactly who, but one analyst predicted worldwide stock issues by April. Things might get bad soon

Guys, how long have you followed gaming news? This is normal for Nintendo, they create low stock on purpose. The more unavailable a product is the more desirable it becomes. If a product is too available, people will just wait to see price drops or sales. Its artificial demand.

The same will happen with the launch of ps5, sony will create shortages, to give the impression that its a very desirable product, buy it now before it goes is a very known tactic.

So you follow fake gaming news. 



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Not the artificial demand thing again



victor83fernandes said:
MasonADC said:

I forget exactly who, but one analyst predicted worldwide stock issues by April. Things might get bad soon

Guys, how long have you followed gaming news? This is normal for Nintendo, they create low stock on purpose. The more unavailable a product is the more desirable it becomes. If a product is too available, people will just wait to see price drops or sales. Its artificial demand.

The same will happen with the launch of ps5, sony will create shortages, to give the impression that its a very desirable product, buy it now before it goes is a very known tactic.

Show me one good piece of evidence that points towards these shortages being artificial. When you can’t, let’s go back to the real world and remember that china( where production of the switch takes place) was, and still is on shutdown 



Some conspiracy theories just refuse to die, sadly.

All through 2017 certain folks insisted it was artificial scarcity too, despite there being a confirmed shortage of mobile parts the Switch needed.



Bet with Liquidlaser: I say PS5 and Xbox Series will sell more than 56 million combined by the end of 2023.