Forums - Sales Discussion - Global Hardware 29 February 2020

trunkswd said:
EricHiggin said:

That would certainly explain it.

It also may not be a bad time for PS4 to officially drop it's price. Not only does it seem well overdue, but it would help get sales back up to where they belong, if they do have shortages down the road. Mind you, could the console companies look at this as an opportunity to upsell consumers on next gen perhaps?

I don't see a reason to drop the price of the PS4 until after shortages are no longer a possible issue. I do agree it needs a big price cut with how long it has been. Sony has been riding the profits. 

Plus seeing it drop below XB360 in the U.S. is another sign it's time for a cut. Little reason to purposely lose momentum if they want to continue pushing PS4 as well as PS5, eventually.

Robert_Downey_Jr. said:
trunkswd said:

I don't see a reason to drop the price of the PS4 until after shortages are no longer a possible issue. I do agree it needs a big price cut with how long it has been. Sony has been riding the profits. 

I'm thinking we'll see them cut price at the same time they announce PS5 price.

PS5: $499 "incredible value for our powerful next gen console that will offer a great future, but we will continue to support our customers on PS4 and offer an alternative so that every customer finds a place on our platform."

PS4 pro: $299

PS4: $199

Not a terrible idea if PS5 isn't priced all that high because then you could potentially get some consumers to go straight to a PS5. If PS5 is going to be $499 though, then they should drop PS4 pricing sooner than later and keep the momentum going. Few people who are waiting for a $199 PS4 are going to be upsold to a $499 PS5. $399 would bring some more in, but that's still $200 more than PS4 would be, and you have to ask why didn't they get a Pro then? Have they really been waiting for PS5 all this time?

I tend to think Pro should be dropped entirely, but if PS5 is $499, and Lockhart comes in considerably less, without a new PS Lockhart, keeping Pro around would make sense to some degree.



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EricHiggin said:
trunkswd said:

I don't see a reason to drop the price of the PS4 until after shortages are no longer a possible issue. I do agree it needs a big price cut with how long it has been. Sony has been riding the profits. 

Plus seeing it drop below XB360 in the U.S. is another sign it's time for a cut. Little reason to purposely lose momentum if they want to continue pushing PS4 as well as PS5, eventually.

Robert_Downey_Jr. said:

I'm thinking we'll see them cut price at the same time they announce PS5 price.

PS5: $499 "incredible value for our powerful next gen console that will offer a great future, but we will continue to support our customers on PS4 and offer an alternative so that every customer finds a place on our platform."

PS4 pro: $299

PS4: $199

Not a terrible idea if PS5 isn't priced all that high because then you could potentially get some consumers to go straight to a PS5. If PS5 is going to be $499 though, then they should drop PS4 pricing sooner than later and keep the momentum going. Few people who are waiting for a $199 PS4 are going to be upsold to a $499 PS5. $399 would bring some more in, but that's still $200 more than PS4 would be, and you have to ask why didn't they get a Pro then? Have they really been waiting for PS5 all this time?

I tend to think Pro should be dropped entirely, but if PS5 is $499, and Lockhart comes in considerably less, without a new PS Lockhart, keeping Pro around would make sense to some degree.

It's not for the same customer.  Those who were waiting for a cheaper console and wanted PlayStation can keep PS4 sales alive and you may as well offer pro as an option for the same decent bump on those games it has been.  Then the people who bought PS4 in 2013 and 14 can buy the PS5 as they're the hardcore gamers.  They have PS4 games that they will probably have BC for and those people that are on a budget buying PS4 will be more incentivized to buy PS5 down the road when it gets cheaper as they'll have been buying PS4 games in the meantime.  



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I went into a local store and it had no OG switch and only 2 of the lite while it had PS4 and xbox one stocked. Could be different elsewhere but that store seems to have a switch shortage or the stokers were being lazy.



I wonder why it is that the Switch seems so much more prone to shortages than other consoles, is it cos it has to compete for parts with phones/tablets perhaps?



Bet with Liquidlaser: I say PS5 and Xbox Series X will sell more than 56 million combined by the end of 2023.

curl-6 said:

I wonder why it is that the Switch seems so much more prone to shortages than other consoles, is it cos it has to compete for parts with phones/tablets perhaps?

Sony and Microsoft have huge Warehouses around the globe, so they can store much more units in time of need or in preparation to something. Nintendo lacks that capacity, and thus runs short of supply faster than their competitors with equal amount of sales. The fact that storekeepers tend to order less units of Nintendo consoles (or did so in the past) at once compared to the competing consoles doesn't help matters either.